• JJROKCZ
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    1269 months ago

    I love reading about how Korea and Japan are both having this problem and in each it boils down to: people are struggling to survive under capitalist oppression and refuse to bring children into the life of oppression

    • @RamblingPanda
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      329 months ago

      But changing that would mean change, and that’s no good.

      I wonder if everyone else feels as tired as I.

      • JJROKCZ
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        239 months ago

        I’m laying here in bed until the last minute required for me to great ready to rush into work to attend meetings for 7 hours then come home and do actual work for another 5 to keep up with workload. Yes I’m as tired as you

        • @[email protected]
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          19 months ago

          How about go to 3 hours of meetings and work 5 hours? If they object, ask them when you’re supposed to get all this shit done in your 8 hour day. Don’t give them your labor for free…

          • JJROKCZ
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            99 months ago

            Yea and right after that I’ll pay my mortgage with dreams and wishes

            • @[email protected]
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              19 months ago

              I’m just saying, I used to be more like you at the beginning of my career, until I had a new coworker come in years ago that would leave 6 hours into his day if he was done with work, and no one but me noticed or cared. So I started doing the same and stood my ground in other small ways, and have been a lot better for it. Obviously it depends on your company and direct supervisor, but like you can at least start by working less and seeing what happens.

      • @[email protected]
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        169 months ago

        They’re really going for “Better to have the country fail with men in power than give more importance to women and children.”

    • @[email protected]
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      309 months ago

      Added: and are also so racist that will not let in immigrants who will help replace the population that is aging.

      • @[email protected]
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        89 months ago

        At this point, even if either wasn’t so racist, I don’t think they’re in a position to suddenly receive millions of immigrants and properly integrate them into their societies.

        • @[email protected]
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          129 months ago

          “Integrate” isn’t the goal, population replacement is. This is specifically why the governments DON’T want immigrants–they are afraid of losing cultural purity.

          • @[email protected]
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            69 months ago

            Why would their goal to be to replace their culture? Sure it might be the end result of mass immigration, but I wouldn’t call it their goal.

            • @[email protected]
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              9 months ago

              I think you misunderstand. I’m saying that what the governments don’t want to do is allow for replacement even if it’s the only solution. There is no integration, people enter and they remain themselves and their culture. This means that the country will change and evolve, which is scary for purists. In 25 years they would be vastly different places but based on the original cultures.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 months ago

      When I read stories like this, I think about another story about a bear whose bile was extracted for industrial use. The extraction is extremely painful for the animal. They’re kept harnessed to the extraction machinery. This particular bear managed to escape its harness. And the first thing it did was to kill its own cub. So that it wouldn’t have to suffer anymore. This happened in China by the way.

    • @[email protected]
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      9 months ago

      and refuse to bring children into the life of oppression

      Close. It’s their inherent racism that is causing their nations to fail.

      • @[email protected]
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        179 months ago

        I’m not sure why people took exception to this. The Korean government literally makes it impossible for foreigners to access certain services. Japan allows landlords and businesses to reject serving any foreigners, and will arrest any non-citizen for the crime of being outside of their dwelling without their passport in their pocket.

      • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ
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        9 months ago

        For South Korea this is unlikely to be the case. If you actually listen to the women, you’ll learn that starting a family means becoming second class citizens, dogged by oppressive institutions and terrible mother-in-laws (which is a cultural problem too). It’s common in many places. The men aren’t better off either, the insane competition is stressful, alienating, and prevents them from actually experiencing family. Yes, this is also common in many places.

        The problem is capitalism and conservatism, two sides of the same coin.