Not just Japan. When they need language teachers and translators, they just dock their subs close to the beach of the country, and kidnap anyone they found there.
I understand what occurred, I was right here. It DOES sound like propaganda, and it never happened. Did NK kidnap public figures from its immediate neighbor? Yea!
Is that neighbor part of the same hundreds of years old country that was split apart 30 years before this? Also yea!
Does any of this have anything to do with NK rolling up on a beach via a submarine and kidnapping people to teach language classes? No! That’s ridiculous, and providing a link that shows that NK did in fact kidnap VERY SPECIFIC people, when someone else is suggesting this is happening near indiscriminately is basically lying.
Jesus, I sound like an NK apologist. Fuck NK, and fuck any govt that does the things nk does, but making up bullshit and exaggerating beyond reason in order to frame NK as somehow even worse than it is, is by definition propaganda.
Edit: as pointed out by OP, NK did in fact kidnap civilians from Japan for the purposes of teaching foreign languages.
Maybe worth noting propaganda and the truth aren’t mutually exclusive. Propaganda can and often is true; falsehood isn’t what makes it propaganda
Not just Japan. When they need language teachers and translators, they just dock their subs close to the beach of the country, and kidnap anyone they found there.
This is the comment I’m posting about.
That
Sounds
Like
Propaganda
Let me further clarify:
That sounds like a talking point pushed by someone who has a vested interest in convincing people that somehow NK is even worse than it actually is that has been picked up and repeated until it’s taken as fact. It does not matter how factual it actually is.
And you know what, nobody needs to worry about being kidnapped by North Koreans in submarines.
It could be a joke, sure. Lots of propaganda appears to be. Watch loony toons about the war in the Pacific during the 40s. Being a joke doesn’t make it not propaganda.
Not just Japan. When they need language teachers and translators, they just dock their subs close to the beach of the country, and kidnap anyone they found there.
NGL that sounds like propaganda, and not reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_of_Shin_Sang-ok_and_Choi_Eun-hee
Honestly, not the same thing. Atrocious, but not indescriminant submarine based abductions from far away lands for the language skills.
You said it sounds like propaganda. I gave you an example of what they did (verifiably) which is not.
I understand what occurred, I was right here. It DOES sound like propaganda, and it never happened. Did NK kidnap public figures from its immediate neighbor? Yea!
Is that neighbor part of the same hundreds of years old country that was split apart 30 years before this? Also yea!
Does any of this have anything to do with NK rolling up on a beach via a submarine and kidnapping people to teach language classes? No! That’s ridiculous, and providing a link that shows that NK did in fact kidnap VERY SPECIFIC people, when someone else is suggesting this is happening near indiscriminately is basically lying.
Jesus, I sound like an NK apologist. Fuck NK, and fuck any govt that does the things nk does, but making up bullshit and exaggerating beyond reason in order to frame NK as somehow even worse than it is, is by definition propaganda.
Edit: as pointed out by OP, NK did in fact kidnap civilians from Japan for the purposes of teaching foreign languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens
Here is a Wiki link which mentions that Japanese people were abducted for translation reasons.
Doesn’t seem so ridiculous now.
Yes, you sound like that.
I stand sorta corrected, I guess…
Maybe worth noting propaganda and the truth aren’t mutually exclusive. Propaganda can and often is true; falsehood isn’t what makes it propaganda
This is the comment I’m posting about.
That Sounds Like Propaganda
Let me further clarify: That sounds like a talking point pushed by someone who has a vested interest in convincing people that somehow NK is even worse than it actually is that has been picked up and repeated until it’s taken as fact. It does not matter how factual it actually is.
And you know what, nobody needs to worry about being kidnapped by North Koreans in submarines.
Get some reading comprehension.
Digging in… Well okay.
It does sound like that. Exaggerated for sure, however it’s not that far from reality although to a lesser extend during 70’s, if I am not mistaken.
Op posted a link to the kidnapping incident you’re likely referring to in thread. Pretty interesting. Terrifying too.
More like a joke
It could be a joke, sure. Lots of propaganda appears to be. Watch loony toons about the war in the Pacific during the 40s. Being a joke doesn’t make it not propaganda.
Reminds me of a story about how they kidnapped a movie director to make films for them. I don’t remember the details though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulgasari
Lmao they forced the guy to direct wish.com Godzilla
The Dollop podcast did a thorough job covering this one. Definitely worth a listen