Your point is wrong, though. Leftists voting for dems will only encourage more liberal policy, not leftist policy. You’re advocating for leftists voting third party and spoiling their vote.
Being less right does not mean more left, because politics are not actually axial. Being less right wing does not necessarily mean you’re more Socialist.
No, I’m not claiming that, lol. Don’t put words in my mouth, especially if you’re acknowledging that it’s stupid as hell. It’s both not what I said, and is condescending as fuck.
Left wing refers to Socialism, ie worker ownership of the means of production. Could be via Democratic Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, Synicalism, whatever. Liberalism isn’t in that picture, because it’s focused on Capitalism.
Liberals aren’t as bad as Nazis, which is what you should’ve said, instead of saying that liberals are more left wing than Nazis. That doesn’t make any sense, liberals aren’t any more Socialist, they just aren’t as fascist, so they are less extreme Capitalists.
Yes, I never insinuated otherwise. However, your point this entire time is that this should move America to the left, and that leftists should be happy with that, which is wrong in both cases.
Your point is wrong, though. Leftists voting for dems will only encourage more liberal policy, not leftist policy. You’re advocating for leftists voting third party and spoiling their vote.
I’m advocating for leftists voting for the most left Dem they can get in any given race. Not for splitting the vote.
Liberal is better than fascist, correct?
The most “left” dem is right wing and wants to implement right wing solutions. The dems are not left.
Dems are more left than the literal nazis on the right wing.
Being less right does not mean more left, because politics are not actually axial. Being less right wing does not necessarily mean you’re more Socialist.
So you’re just claiming that whatever you believe, at the intensity you believe, is left wing, and all other things are not.
Stupid as hell, but whatever.
The point of my comment was liberals are not as bad as actual literal nazis. Do you disagree?
No, I’m not claiming that, lol. Don’t put words in my mouth, especially if you’re acknowledging that it’s stupid as hell. It’s both not what I said, and is condescending as fuck.
Left wing refers to Socialism, ie worker ownership of the means of production. Could be via Democratic Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, Synicalism, whatever. Liberalism isn’t in that picture, because it’s focused on Capitalism.
Liberals aren’t as bad as Nazis, which is what you should’ve said, instead of saying that liberals are more left wing than Nazis. That doesn’t make any sense, liberals aren’t any more Socialist, they just aren’t as fascist, so they are less extreme Capitalists.
Simple.
Great. I’m gonna ignore all the other red herrings and drill down on this.
When your options are “bad” and “less bad”, shouldn’t you vote for “less bad”?
Yes, I never insinuated otherwise. However, your point this entire time is that this should move America to the left, and that leftists should be happy with that, which is wrong in both cases.