Lemmy: “that is a fair point”

Reddit: “you fucking moron”

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    I think the joke, if it was one, was that you can’t say “transgenderism is a danger to society,” much of anywhere - Not on most of Reddit certainly, at least that’s my impression, not usually going around saying that kind of thing.

    And I agree that trans people aren’t a threat, in and of themselves. It’s everyone that’s using them as a rainbow political cudgel to whip up a moral panic that’s playing with fire.

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      I think the joke, if it was one, was that you can’t say “transgenderism is a danger to society,” much of anywhere

      I’ve seen that and worse on reddit, twitter and facebook. And definitely on 4chan and exploding-heads. Without having to look very hard.

      It’s everyone that’s using them as a rainbow political cudgel to whip up a moral panic that’s playing with fire.

      Conservatives have been screaming that trans people are groomers and using that as justification for introducing bathroom bills, banning books about gay and trans people, calling bomb threats in to hospitals and retailers, and openly calling for eradicating trans people. That’s what a moral panic looks like.

      Exactly what would you say constitutes a moral panic that’s happening in the opposite direction?

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        When you make 60% of your headlines and magazine articles about the latest, brave, beautiful drag queen in (I believe) an effort to monetize resent-viewing on one side and hate-viewing on the other, you make a miniscule “community” famous. The famous have always been equal parts adored and hated, even killed sometimes.

        I don’t think they asked to be the center of attention, but the other fights were so close to won that they weren’t driving enough engagement anymore, so further down the alphabet we go. Gay marriage was the last flash in the pan and now most Republicans support it. They didn’t lose. They weren’t forced. They came around. It took a while, but they did.

        Which leads me to the moral panic of the other direction and that’s anything to do with religion, men’s issues, systemic racism… All blown to epic, apocalyptic proportions. The Proud Boys don’t run Hollywood or Disney or hospitals or social media platforms. They’re a handful of rednecks… In fact they’re not anything anymore, would be my guess.

        The progressive, activist Left appears (to me) to be moral panic personified. Just another “join or die,” authoritarian ideology. Once upon a time, being gay might get you fired. Being a woman might prevent that promotion. Big business used to be afraid of the wrath of the Christian Right, but it’s swung in the other direction now and the progressive Left wields that power no more gracefully than the Bible-clutching WASPs did before them.

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          When you make 60% of your headlines and magazine articles about the latest, brave, beautiful drag queen in (I believe) an effort to monetize resent-viewing on one side and hate-viewing on the other, you make a miniscule “community” famous.

          So, that 60% figure is complete nonsense. And the rest of what I quoted is just you whining based on the number you made up.

          I don’t think they asked to be the center of attention, but the other fights were so close to won that they weren’t driving enough engagement anymore, so further down the alphabet we go.

          Do you think trans people are going out and picking fights with conservatives? It’s the other way around. Conservatives are ginning up hate for people who pose no threat whatsoever to them. Calling them groomers and saying they mutilate kids. I listed the things Republicans are doing. You made up a number and acted persecuted because you have to know trans people exist.

          Gay marriage was the last flash in the pan and now most Republicans support it. They didn’t lose. They weren’t forced. They came around. It took a while, but they did.

          This is completely false. Gay marriage was illegal in my state until 2015. There’s still Republicans fighting court battles because they’re such bigots that they can’t stand the idea of making a website for a notional gay person who they may one day encounter.

          The Proud Boys don’t run Hollywood

          Do tell, who do you think runs Hollywood? Are triple parentheses involved?

          or Disney or hospitals

          No, they just threaten to bomb hospitals. And march in front of Disney with nazi (and DeSantis) flags.

          or social media platforms.

          Here’s where I point out that reddit kept the_donald around for years after they helped organize the unite the right nazi rally.

          Big business used to be afraid of the wrath of the Christian Right

          And now they’re cowed by bomb threats from the unhinged violent conservative followers of libsoftiktok.

          but it’s swung in the other direction now and the progressive Left wields that power no more gracefully than the Bible-clutching WASPs did before them.

          Against whom?