• PugJesus
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    8 months ago

    “Please don’t blame me for standing by as fascists ascend to power, I don’t want to take responsibility for my actions”

    Voting is supposed to be about picking the candidate I want.

    Voting is about using your power as a citizen to improve the country. Civic duty - not a popularity contest.

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      8 months ago

      “Please don’t blame me for standing by as fascists ascend to power, I don’t want to take responsibility for my actions”

      He’s not the one standing by. It’s the DNC that chose the only candidate that could lose to Trump because they feel he is entitled to it. Just like they chose Hillary in 2016 because it was “her time.” These are losses brought on by themselves that affects everyone. Don’t be mad at the voters, be mad at the party that is struggling to beat an insurrectionist with multiple ongoing criminal court cases.

      • PugJesus
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        178 months ago

        Just like they chose Hillary in 2016 because it was “her time.”

        … do you not remember that Hillary was elected in the primary?

        Jesus fucking Christ.

        Signed, a 2016 and 2020 Bernie voter.

        • @[email protected]
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          58 months ago

          Yes, I remember the super delegates that they got rid of because they were used to tip the scales and the DNC giving Hillary the debate questions before the debates so she could be extra prepared.

          Also a 2016 and 2020 Bernie voter and donor.

          • PugJesus
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            128 months ago

            Yes, I remember the super delegates that they got rid of because they were used to tip the scales

            Clearly you don’t remember, since Hillary won the greater number of elected delegates, and the ‘Super Delegates’ only ended up relevant as a Hail Mary pass for the Bernie campaign.

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              58 months ago

              Clearly you don’t remember, since Hillary won the greater number of elected delegates, and the ‘Super Delegates’ only ended up relevant as a Hail Mary pass for the Bernie campaign.

              You’re the one not remembering… The super delegates were all called extremely early in the race for Hilary in an attempt to make it look like Bernie was so far behind he could never catch up.

              • Jaysyn
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                And he didn’t.

                You’re ready to hand over the USA to christofascists because Bernie was a worse campaigner than Hillary. That’s pathetic, you sore loser.

                I say this as someone who donated over $1000 to Bernie in 2016.

                • PugJesus
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                  78 months ago

                  I say this as someone who donated over $1000 to Bernie in 2016.

                  Thank you for covering my poor 25$ donating ass in 2016 o7

                • @[email protected]
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                  28 months ago

                  You’re ready to hand over the USA to christofascists

                  I have never once said that. I have said the opposite several times.

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                Isn’t it weird to you that not even Bernie says or thinks this?

                That Bernie continues to work with the very folks you refuse to vote for? Almost like it’s not an issue to the very person it should be…

                Almost like you’ve got it wrong and even Bernie has moved on to do more for your political views by collaborating WITH the very dems you refuse to support.

                Bernie and people like him are accomplishing more for your political goals by working WITH the DNC. Accomplishing more than you will ever accomplish with your sanctimonious BS pretending like the DNC made you a victim.

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                  18 months ago

                  folks you refuse to vote for?

                  I never said that… I’ve said the opposite. Now you’re arguing against points I never said or made.

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                    Sorry someone else in the same thread, making the same points as you, claimed it was their civic duty to not vote. Suppose with all the complaining about non-issues / cutting-noses-to-spite-faces going on, must have gotten confused. You really do not sound like someone advocating FOR voting dem. You must be that easily confusable for others advocating against…

                    By all means keep going on about false superdelegate shit, and how the DNC is everyone’s real problem because you mean to help so much.

              • Remmock
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                18 months ago

                You need a lesson. The DNC conspired against Bernie Sanders the moment it was clear he was a threat to Hillary and did it so goddamned hard that there was a lawsuit about it.

                A lawsuit that ended with the defense: “The DNC is a private entity so we’re allowed to do whatever we want.”

                https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

                https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/24/clinton-campaign-blames-russia-wikileaks-sanders-dnc-emails

                Please explain why they deserve to continue existing.

                • @[email protected]
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                  18 months ago

                  I don’t think you replied to the right person. I would argue against any of this. In fact I brought up points that support what you’re saying here.

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      58 months ago

      Voting is about using your power as a citizen to improve the country

      Then don’t fucking complain when people do it.

      • PugJesus
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        178 months ago

        Then don’t fucking complain when people do it.

        Putting fascists in power is improving the country? Wow. This is some brave new form of leftism, I guess, that I’m just too right-wing to understand.

        • archomrade [he/him]
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          48 months ago

          Making white liberals uncomfortable enough to bring them to the table to negotiate by threatening not to cast a ballot for them is certainly improving things.

            • archomrade [he/him]
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              38 months ago

              You can laugh -god knows we all need something to laugh at- but look at how fucking irate y’all get about it.

              • PugJesus
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                118 months ago

                Yeah, we get so irate about the prospect of fascism. Silly us. We should be like the REAL enlightened leftists, and cheer fascism’s rise on.

                  • PugJesus
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                    108 months ago

                    Forgive me for seeing “Not putting fascism forward another ten steps” as better than “Putting fascism forward another ten steps”.