No. But it’s humorous to me that you immediately go there for anyone who disagrees with your take. I’m >5 decades.
If Lemmy becomes that size, all good things about it goes away, and we get ads and corporations moving in to profit from it. That turns the entire thing into the same shit as everything else.
Sounds like massive speculation. Especially for an open platform system that anyone can self-host. If you don’t like ads or paying for service, light up your own instance and self host. That is, by definition, why lemmy works the way lemmy works. I hate to accuse you of making shit up, but you are making shit up.
It happens over and over and over again in tech. It’s a pattern that all older people knows about because we have lived it.
I’ve probably lived through more of this than you have. I’ve made my career in the tech industry and have been at it since 1991. Again, you keep trying to imply that you somehow have more experience or more time in industry just because I disagree with you. That’s awfully pretentious.
So I hope Lemmy stays small. Bigger than now, sure, but not big enough to attract corporations.
That’s elitist. And it’s self-defeating. Sounds like you’d be happy just joining a few email list servers…because you aren’t going to get any more value than that out of the self-inflicted handicap of keeping community sizes tiny.
You seem to have equated what you think is superior age and experience with superior wisdom. You’re wrong on multiple counts and committing numerous logical fallacies while you’re at it. Larger platforms are more successful because they have the community sizes needed to make even niche topics relatively engaging. There’s a critical mass of users needed to make that happen. Lemmy is a few orders of magnitude too small for that yet, but that’s what it will take to be a viable alternative. I’m not suggesting that Lemmy should get so big that it causes places like Reddit to disappear…just that it gets big enough to be a viable alternative. If it’s not big enough to be a viable alternative, then what’s the point? To just be an elitist circle jerk for for a few people discussing a few popular topics somewhere outside the mainstream so they can think they are some kind of techno-hipsters? What a waste.
We disagree with eachother for sure. I’m also about your age, and I havent seen any platform become big without also becoming user hostile. Google, Youtube, Reddit, Meta, you name it.
It seems that you believe that just because Lemmy is federated, it will be able to not be affected by Threads and it’s users. We will see. I doubt it.
It seems that you believe that just because Lemmy is federated
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that because federation is a two-way street and can ben enabled or disabled between any two instances, it will always be possible to have instances that are unaffected by threads. Certainly, some instances will choose not to federate with threads - and so there will always be the possibility to join a community (or create one) that shuts itself off from that influence. Take beehaw.org for example - they didn’t like the influence lemmy.world had on their community so they defederated. They are no longer influenced by lemmy.world. The point I am trying to make is that because of that fact (that possibility), there is no reason at all to desire to limit the total scope (userbase) of all of lemmy. If you want a private/closed community, then make one or join one - you don’t need to suppress everyone just to achieve your own personal goals for a community.
There was an article not long ago about how blocking threads won’t make the problem go away. Not sure how to find it again here, I tried searching for it but there are so many articles about Threads so it’s hard to find. Either way it made a very good case why blocking won’t make a difference.
No. But it’s humorous to me that you immediately go there for anyone who disagrees with your take. I’m >5 decades.
Sounds like massive speculation. Especially for an open platform system that anyone can self-host. If you don’t like ads or paying for service, light up your own instance and self host. That is, by definition, why lemmy works the way lemmy works. I hate to accuse you of making shit up, but you are making shit up.
I’ve probably lived through more of this than you have. I’ve made my career in the tech industry and have been at it since 1991. Again, you keep trying to imply that you somehow have more experience or more time in industry just because I disagree with you. That’s awfully pretentious.
That’s elitist. And it’s self-defeating. Sounds like you’d be happy just joining a few email list servers…because you aren’t going to get any more value than that out of the self-inflicted handicap of keeping community sizes tiny.
You seem to have equated what you think is superior age and experience with superior wisdom. You’re wrong on multiple counts and committing numerous logical fallacies while you’re at it. Larger platforms are more successful because they have the community sizes needed to make even niche topics relatively engaging. There’s a critical mass of users needed to make that happen. Lemmy is a few orders of magnitude too small for that yet, but that’s what it will take to be a viable alternative. I’m not suggesting that Lemmy should get so big that it causes places like Reddit to disappear…just that it gets big enough to be a viable alternative. If it’s not big enough to be a viable alternative, then what’s the point? To just be an elitist circle jerk for for a few people discussing a few popular topics somewhere outside the mainstream so they can think they are some kind of techno-hipsters? What a waste.
We disagree with eachother for sure. I’m also about your age, and I havent seen any platform become big without also becoming user hostile. Google, Youtube, Reddit, Meta, you name it.
It seems that you believe that just because Lemmy is federated, it will be able to not be affected by Threads and it’s users. We will see. I doubt it.
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that because federation is a two-way street and can ben enabled or disabled between any two instances, it will always be possible to have instances that are unaffected by threads. Certainly, some instances will choose not to federate with threads - and so there will always be the possibility to join a community (or create one) that shuts itself off from that influence. Take beehaw.org for example - they didn’t like the influence lemmy.world had on their community so they defederated. They are no longer influenced by lemmy.world. The point I am trying to make is that because of that fact (that possibility), there is no reason at all to desire to limit the total scope (userbase) of all of lemmy. If you want a private/closed community, then make one or join one - you don’t need to suppress everyone just to achieve your own personal goals for a community.
There was an article not long ago about how blocking threads won’t make the problem go away. Not sure how to find it again here, I tried searching for it but there are so many articles about Threads so it’s hard to find. Either way it made a very good case why blocking won’t make a difference.