• @[email protected]
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    442 months ago

    The solution is so simple to me. Please explain why we can’t just have gender neutral bathrooms with actually private stalls/changing rooms and just a shared handwashing area?

    • @[email protected]
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      532 months ago

      Because none of this is actually about bathroom privacy. It’s about an excuse to hate and fear the other.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        Eh. The vast majority of feminists I know regularly complain that they don’t feel safe being around men.

        They use rhetoric similar to racists by saying men are more likely to commit acts of violence than women, so it’s okay to discriminate against them.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          When you say things like this is it a Strawoman or a Straw-woman or Strawperson? I feel like there isn’t a good way to spell it.

      • Jojo, Lady of the West
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        32 months ago

        Bathroom bills don’t even seem like they increase bathroom privacy. The only passable justification (which still relies on demonstrably false assumptions and in fact completely backfires in practice) is to “protect women” from “predators”.

        In reality, trans people are less likely to be predators than cis, and bathroom bills primarily serve to increase the number of cis people being accosted in bathrooms because they don’t look “normal” enough. So it’s still completely unjustifiably stupid. But it’s the only justification that even makes any sense at the outset even when you believe the fear mongering lies.

    • @[email protected]
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      172 months ago

      Because that costs more to install per toilet.

      Money is why you cannot have privacy, safety, or a better experience.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        So don’t. It’s a different room, enclosed off from all others. Like a bathroom is intended to be and, indeed, is like, in just about every other civilized country in the world.

    • @Test_Tickles
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      42 months ago

      Some places are doing exactly that. Went to a restaurant last month that had 6 full doors, behind which were small rooms the size of a stall, and a toilet. When you came out of the little toilet room, there was a place to wash\dry your hands in what was essentially an extra wide hallway leading back to the seating area.