• @[email protected]
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    336 months ago

    Really getting flashbacks to 2016 when Hillary supporters refused to acknowledge reality, then got mad when reality stuck around and she lost.

    If you hear about things that are hurting Biden, and you want to help him…

    You should be pulling him to the left, not telling people their concerns aren’t valid

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      Hillary lost because of Russian election interference. She won the popular vote.

      Russian bot farms spammed the internet with their talking points in strategic areas to influence the electoral vote.

      That is why it is important to check the history of accounts who post to see if they are pushing specific talking points.

      • mozz
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        116 months ago

        Or asserting “everyone who disagrees with me is just calling me a Russian bot, definitely not putting up detailed reasoned arguments which I then pretend aren’t happening”

        Or repeatedly falling back on “OBVIOUSLY the economy is doing terrible, we all agree” instead of looking at historic union gains and low-wage earner gains even under punishing Covid inflation which yes they’re not nearly enough but are actual progress in the right direction after God knows how long of nothing

        Or posting clearly maliciously false criticism of Biden on things like marijuana or union support, and then falling back on “I’M ONLY TRYING TO HELP THE DEMOCRATS WITH MY WELL MEANING PUSHING OF HIM TO THE LEFT” and claiming they’re being punished for their constructive criticism

        Ask me if I’m salty about the overall nature of the discussion 🙂

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          56 months ago

          And because she unapologetically fucked over 95% of the committed Democratic support base who’s in it for genuine and heartfelt reasons when she fucked over Bernie Sanders

          Don’t forget about that bullshit. Trump was still worse to a catastrophic degree, but that was her election to lose and she did everything in her greedy little disingenuous power to make sure she would lose it

      • @[email protected]
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        46 months ago

        She won the popular vote.

        Do you think that decides the American president?

        That seems to be what Hillarys campaign thought when she did a victory in Cali while trump went to the battleground states that won him the electoral college.

        But Hillary’s campaign not understanding how elections work doesn’t mean reality is wrong.

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        Winning the popular vote doesn’t matter for shit in our system. It’s like saying I should be president because my mom voted for me.

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      56 months ago

      Really getting flashbacks to 2016 when Hillary supporters refused to acknowledge reality, then got mad when reality stuck around and she lost.

      Oh that’s been persistent this entire race, and lemmy has been as guilty as any other platform. They’ll also accuse you of being a Trump proponent because you are pointing out why Biden’s policy positions are causing him to flounder in this election. But its your fault for not carrying water.

      Hillary was a terrible candidate, maybe one of the worst that could have been run in 2016. Republicans had been developing opposition research on her for decades. They knew she would be the candidate. Having someone else swoop in and snake the primary would have headfaked the Republicans so hard their ankles would have broken. Her steps to the right during her campaign, her incredibly dismissive attitude towards BLM, her ongoing relationship with banks, she was a terrible fucking candidate. This is all on top of the fact that the DNC actually did put their thumb on the scales for Hillary.

      Its just not any different with Biden. We saw all the same things and were seeing them all again now. But what lemmings need to start getting into their head, is that their apologetics for Biden as a candidate support these losing strategies. Being an apologist actually makes Biden a weaker, less likely to win candidate. What the apologists need to realize is that they aren’t a monolith in terms of voting, and their arguments don’t bring voters to Biden.

      Stop excusing him and his shitty policies, and start demanding more before its too fucking late.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        56 months ago

        I’ve been ringing the alarm for months on here. Been called everything from Russian bot, Trumper, Chinese bot, right wing troll, commie, etc.

        They only want to put their heads in the sand and hope “but Trump” works.

          • @[email protected]OP
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            46 months ago

            Hence the downvotes haha right on cue

            Been at this since Obama, survived the Hillary/Bernie wars, etc. Nothing new to me.

            • @[email protected]
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              56 months ago

              Hence the downvotes haha right on cue

              Yeah they’re scared. And they should be. But if fear is dictating your actions, you are going to fail.