• @[email protected]
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    1310 months ago

    Yeah, and I’m sure they’re dumb enough to fall for it the eighth time. Israel’s definitely done genociding this time, they pinkie promised they won’t come back and finish the job in another two decades when everyone forgets again. If only Hamas could be more reasonable and just accept Israel’s incredibly generous offer to return to the status quo of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them when they protest!

      • @[email protected]
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        610 months ago

        If you read my comment and seriously came away with the idea that I support what Israel is doing, I don’t really know what the fuck to tell you.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 months ago

            despite Hamas currently being in a very bad position relative to Israel forces

            Hamas barely lost any top ranking officers. Meanwhile israel is losing international support at lightning speed.

            The only one with their backs against the wall right now is israel. If they aren’t going to come through with a Palestinian state then Hamas doesn’t have much to lose right now by just dragging israel through the mud further.

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              310 months ago

              If they aren’t going to come through with a Palestinian state then Hamas doesn’t have much to lose right now by just dragging israel through the mud further.

              That’s an interesting take. I think more Palestinian deaths would be a pretty significant amount for Hamas to lose. Seems like you’re not at concerned about the genocide as you pretend to be.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 months ago

            but right now, Hamas is actually getting what it wants for the first time ever. People are now actually demanding an end to the Israeli apartheid, even though the genocide was happening long before October 7th. They’re no longer suffering in silence, there are members of the West that support Palestine now. That is a massive, massive difference compared to conflicts like the 2014 Gazan War or the many Intifadas, where Israel committed many of the same war crimes today but faced zero consequences internationally for them.

            At the same time, the West has the memory of a goldfish. If Hamas cedes now, and we do the dance of both sides planning up for a future conflict again, how can Hamas trust that they’ll receive Western support again? How can they know they won’t be villified, and Israel won’t get away with just committing more warcrimes on them? How do they even know there will be a next time, that Israel won’t strike first next time and exterminate all that remains of Palestine, after another few years of illegal settlements concentrates the population even further?

            Their best bet is to maintain the current conflict for as long as possible, and hope that international support doesn’t just require Israel to agree to a mutually beneficial ceasefire, but also that international support adds some guard rails to prevent such force from being used against Palestine again. You’re correct that it’s unreasonable to think that this conflict will end with a two-state solution, or really any solution at all. That doesn’t mean Hamas should accept a spit in the face, which is exactly what the current ceasefire terms are.