• Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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      57 months ago

      You said the Jewish people need self-determination, just like Native Americans, and I agree.

      But since you can convert to Judaism, does that mean anyone who converts gets to have a spot in Israel? And if a Native American converts to Judaism, do they get a house in Manhattan and Israel?

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        27 months ago

        I have no idea what you’re trying to get at. I am talking about the jewish as a people, not as a religion. So you don’t just ‘convert’. Jewish is an identity that goes beyond religion.

        • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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          57 months ago

          How many generations of observing Jewish religious practices does it take before one can claim that identity? Do the children of a Jewish person and a non-Jew only get to have a spare bedroom? What about someone with Jewish grandparents? Is a convert who follows religious doctrine strictly less worthy of a free house than my Jewish friend in high school who loved bacon cheeseburgers?

          What I’m getting at is this sort of thing is exactly the problem: Thinking of Jewish people as “other” and “separate” is a precondition to discrimination. Acknowledging that they live everywhere and are part of the religious tapestry of a multi-ethnic nation is better and safer.

          tl;dr - Adam Sandler’s Hannukah Song has a powerful antisemitic message.

          • @[email protected]
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            17 months ago

            Thinking of Jewish people as “other” and “separate” is a precondition to discrimination.

            Jewish identity has been formed because of the discimitation and segregation they have been subjected to. Their aspirations to have their own safe environment is a reaction to that. Antisemitism predates Zionism.

            • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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              57 months ago

              Yes, clearly, antisemitism predated Zionism. But the “othering” of Jews is a precondition for antisemitism.