Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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    I’m just following your logic and finding the action that has the best long-term effect.

    People are going to die anyway, right? That’s just history, right?

    • @[email protected]
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      72 months ago

      Killing as many minorities as possible and ushering in fascism is the best long-term effect in your mind?

      Yeah, that tracks. You keep simping for fascism, bud.

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        No, turning away the Democrats from having killing as a policy is.

        As you say, people are going going to die anyway “that’s just reality” and I have to vote for a fascist if I vote for anyone. May as well cast an Uncommitted and punish the party that should be anti-genocide but isn’t currently.

        (I am one of the minorities that will be targeted by a GOP admin, btw)

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          52 months ago

          “And punish the party” by… giving power to fascists?

          You… you think that the electoral victory of the far-right will push the overton window… left?

          Are you dumb, or just pretending to be?

          (I am one of the minorities that will be targeted by a GOP admin, btw)

          Congrats, we’ll be in line in the concentration camps together. I’m sure you’ll be loudly crying out “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE DEMONRATS” as the showers turn on for us.

          • @natural_motions
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            12 months ago

            I see, so if I vote for Democrats this time they’ll stop being genocidal next time. Is that how it works?

          • Remmock
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            When the Democratic party’s strategists have decided that “you definitely don’t want the other guy voted in” in place of literally any other strategy is their best option, please explain to me why anyone further left of your centrism should believe that the administration will take another vote cast for them as anything but approval of the job they’ve done so far and an endorsement of more of the same.

            On the flip side, to hold Biden himself accountable for the overreaction from University boards’ decisions on behalf of their corporate masters (donors, if that wasn’t clear), or responsible for the large number of Representatives and Senators making and voting for policy with their heads up their own or others’ asses, when he has been caught on the hot mic disparaging Netanyahu for how Israel is conducting itself is holding the wrong person accountable.

            I get where they’re coming from. I get it on a level you clearly don’t because you have proven time and again that you have little capacity to sympathize with those who are clearly tired of voting for the “least damaging option”. Take a break and let someone else debate with them, because the more you criticize the further you’ll solidify their position.

            Okay, dad?

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              32 months ago

              When the Democratic party’s strategists have decided that “you definitely don’t want the other guy voted in” in place of literally any other strategy is their best option, please explain to me why anyone further left of your centrism should believe that the administration will take another vote cast for them as anything but approval of the job they’ve done so far and an endorsement of more of the same.

              Because the administration is full of politicians who have continually shifted with popular opinion. You wanna explain to me how a far-right fascist winning an election is going to convince the centrists in the Democratic Party that sentiment has shifted left and not right?

              I get where they’re coming from. I get it on a level you clearly don’t because you have proven time and again that you have little capacity to sympathize with those who are clearly tired of voting for the “least damaging option”. Take a break and let someone else debate with them, because the more you criticize the further you’ll solidify their position.

              Gee, I wonder why I don’t have much sympathy for those who are “tired” of voting for the “least damaging option”. Guess I’ll mull that over in line to the fucking concentration camps.

              Get your privileged bullshit out of here, and go play apologist for fascism enablers somewhere where they give a damn about your overwhelming desire to see oppressed groups murdered so you can feel warm and fuzzy about how politically pure fascism apologists are when they stamp their feet and cry both sides are the same. Me? I’m more interested in not getting murdered and not seeing any of my family or friends murdered by a fascist regime which has no intention of letting another democratic election happen as long as it exists.

              Okay, dad?

              I’m not your dad, son.

              • Remmock
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                22 months ago

                Oh, okay. You just want to be mad without fixing the situation.

                Well, you can kindly go fuck yourself.