I didn’t declare that you are inexperienced with drugs nor did I insinuate that you are. I simply made the statement that adderall AKA racemic amphetamine, a drug with no severe dopamine affecting, serotonin affecting, psychedelic, or mind altering properties, is not a recreational drug.
Maybe you can have fun on adderall, some people enjoy cock and ball torture, that doesn’t make it recreational. Like I said, people get high on benadryl, that is still not a recreational drug.
And what does my age have to do with anything? Using age in an argument is extremely childish. “I’m a year older than you so I know what I’m talking about”. I don’t know your age and I do not care.
I agree that it is a waste of time to continue, as we are pretty much going in circles, however I don’t think this discussion was a waste of time though and it gave us both different perspective at the end of it. Maybe we both don’t agree on the classification of adderall as a substance outside of medicine, but we still saw another person’s perspective on it.
With that being said, I hope you have a wonderful day and if you decide to try any other substances, continue to implement harm reduction practices!
I am sorry but I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Coming from my background I have never seen adderall as anything other than medicine and a performance enhancing drug. I just do not see how you could extract any recreational value from adderall alone. I have taken up to 280 mg of adderall at once, it was great for my cardio sessions, but there are better choices for stimulants at raves, parties, and clubs. I’d recommend giving MDMA or 2CB a try to see exactly what I (and most others) classify as a recreational drug (a substance in which gives recreational value by itself). Do your research first, they’re both safe (2CB is safer) when implementing proper harm reduction (test your shit, not just the drugs but their effect on yourself). Psychonaut Wiki has great articles on these which you should check out even as just passive reading.
Also, of course the effect would be diminished, but that goes for any brain chemistry altering substances. You can’t even do classic psychedelics every day (except for possibly psilocybin at a low dose) and those tend to be the safest drugs in terms of brain chemistry. The brain needs time to recover and replenish it’s stores of whatever it was you just depleted. Anyone that does not or cannot understand that should not use any such substances, as that’s how addiction begins.
Listen, this discussion is getting old. If you are so sure of your position be so in silence - don’t bombard me with your [deleted] efforts and then another wall of text, please.
You have failed to convince me of your competence. If it’s not the case that you just maratoned som youtube videoes, then work on your tone and presentation. This kind of unfounded lecturing is why I think you are so young.
I wish you the best of luck growing, what ever your age may be.
The [deleted] is my bad. I keep getting network errors whenever I post (this account is located on lemmy.world which has apparently been receiving some pretty bad network issues lately) and it seems like they go through multiple times or sometimes they do not go through at all. If you think I’m deleting my posts due to errors in my writing, ask yourself why I wouldn’t simply just edit my post?
I’m not lecturing you at all. I’m giving my .02 just as you gave yours, I even say that we should just agree to disagree and yet you are trying to end the conversation on “your terms” to seem like “you’re right”. It is clear you didn’t learn anything from this conversation whatsoever, I learned something and I’m not ashamed to admit it. I simply said that I’m going to continue to personally classify these substances based on how the rest of the (experienced) world sees them. No reason to throw a hissy fit.
I don’t know what comes off as childish in anything I write as I have given clear and consice information that is accurate. The fact that you are making age such a big deal in this discussion leads me to believe that you are in fact very young considering the fact that children tend to hold age very highly when it comes to “who is right or wrong”. Just because someone is in their 80’s doesn’t mean they know anything more than someone in their 30’s (especially in a given topic), the only thing guaranteed is experience.
Admittedly my tone was harsh in the beginning but I lightened up as to ease the conversation, ironically you would benefit from following your own advice as you have kept a harsh tone throughout the conversation.
Overuse? I’m not going to argue, you’ll turn this discussion in to a beginners philosophy course.
My comment about judgment was referring to your confidence when declaring me as Inexperienced with drugs.
I now belive I’m talking to a very young person, this might be or it might not. Either way it’s a waste of time to continue.
Take a proper dose - stop pushing your ignorance online, and have good time.
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I didn’t declare that you are inexperienced with drugs nor did I insinuate that you are. I simply made the statement that adderall AKA racemic amphetamine, a drug with no severe dopamine affecting, serotonin affecting, psychedelic, or mind altering properties, is not a recreational drug.
Maybe you can have fun on adderall, some people enjoy cock and ball torture, that doesn’t make it recreational. Like I said, people get high on benadryl, that is still not a recreational drug.
And what does my age have to do with anything? Using age in an argument is extremely childish. “I’m a year older than you so I know what I’m talking about”. I don’t know your age and I do not care.
I agree that it is a waste of time to continue, as we are pretty much going in circles, however I don’t think this discussion was a waste of time though and it gave us both different perspective at the end of it. Maybe we both don’t agree on the classification of adderall as a substance outside of medicine, but we still saw another person’s perspective on it.
With that being said, I hope you have a wonderful day and if you decide to try any other substances, continue to implement harm reduction practices!
“If you think adderall is recreational then you have had very limited experience with drugs in your life” - You
recreational: relating to or denoting activity done for enjoyment.
This includes cock and ball torture and aderal.
Up the dosage, learn what I’m talking about - just remember if you take it everyday the effect will be diminished.
I am sorry but I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Coming from my background I have never seen adderall as anything other than medicine and a performance enhancing drug. I just do not see how you could extract any recreational value from adderall alone. I have taken up to 280 mg of adderall at once, it was great for my cardio sessions, but there are better choices for stimulants at raves, parties, and clubs. I’d recommend giving MDMA or 2CB a try to see exactly what I (and most others) classify as a recreational drug (a substance in which gives recreational value by itself). Do your research first, they’re both safe (2CB is safer) when implementing proper harm reduction (test your shit, not just the drugs but their effect on yourself). Psychonaut Wiki has great articles on these which you should check out even as just passive reading.
Also, of course the effect would be diminished, but that goes for any brain chemistry altering substances. You can’t even do classic psychedelics every day (except for possibly psilocybin at a low dose) and those tend to be the safest drugs in terms of brain chemistry. The brain needs time to recover and replenish it’s stores of whatever it was you just depleted. Anyone that does not or cannot understand that should not use any such substances, as that’s how addiction begins.
Listen, this discussion is getting old. If you are so sure of your position be so in silence - don’t bombard me with your [deleted] efforts and then another wall of text, please.
You have failed to convince me of your competence. If it’s not the case that you just maratoned som youtube videoes, then work on your tone and presentation. This kind of unfounded lecturing is why I think you are so young.
I wish you the best of luck growing, what ever your age may be.
The [deleted] is my bad. I keep getting network errors whenever I post (this account is located on lemmy.world which has apparently been receiving some pretty bad network issues lately) and it seems like they go through multiple times or sometimes they do not go through at all. If you think I’m deleting my posts due to errors in my writing, ask yourself why I wouldn’t simply just edit my post?
I’m not lecturing you at all. I’m giving my .02 just as you gave yours, I even say that we should just agree to disagree and yet you are trying to end the conversation on “your terms” to seem like “you’re right”. It is clear you didn’t learn anything from this conversation whatsoever, I learned something and I’m not ashamed to admit it. I simply said that I’m going to continue to personally classify these substances based on how the rest of the (experienced) world sees them. No reason to throw a hissy fit.
I don’t know what comes off as childish in anything I write as I have given clear and consice information that is accurate. The fact that you are making age such a big deal in this discussion leads me to believe that you are in fact very young considering the fact that children tend to hold age very highly when it comes to “who is right or wrong”. Just because someone is in their 80’s doesn’t mean they know anything more than someone in their 30’s (especially in a given topic), the only thing guaranteed is experience.
Admittedly my tone was harsh in the beginning but I lightened up as to ease the conversation, ironically you would benefit from following your own advice as you have kept a harsh tone throughout the conversation.
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