President Joe Biden’s support for the Israeli military offensive in Gaza mixed with student anger over police crackdowns on anti-war campus protests are complicating the work of Democratic youth groups trying to engage classmates and other Generation Z voters ahead of this year’s election.
So you don’t want Biden, but you don’t want Trump either, but you can’t have it both ways. No matter if you turn out to vote or not, you are getting one of those two choices. That’s a fact. We’re stuck in the Prisoner’s Dilemma Election, and it’s time to decide if we’re going to play the game to win or not.
There’s far more at stake this year than just the fate of Gaza, but shortsightedness is going to kill us.
Saying that there’s far more at stake than an ongoing genocide minimizes genocide.
My solution is to protest as loudly as possible and donate my time, money, and energy to stopping genocide, and not waste anyone’s time by trying to inhumanly minimize genocide.
More than one thing can be true at the same time. Stopping the genocide in Gaza is important. Stopping the rise of fascism in America is important. Stopping the erosion of civil liberties in America is important. Minimizing genocide would be me saying “It’s not that bad”, which I don’t believe is true. It is that bad. I just disagree with the apparent strategy that the nascent leftists have embraced, which is to cut off the nose to spite the face, a strategy that will ultimately end up with a continuation of the status quo at best and risks a rapid acceleration of all of the problems I mentioned above in the worst case scenario.
By all means, protest and donate your money and time to the effort. That seems to be making an impact to some degree.
None of that is going to stop by voting for Biden, lol. We are seeing a rise in fascism, an erosion of civil liberties, and genocide, under Biden. Yes, Trump would probably be worse on some of these aspects, or even all, but we are already well beyond what should be unacceptable.
Protesting and donating is doing far more for gazans than sucking up to Biden and minimizing his atrocities ever will, and I say that as someone that will likely still vote for him.
“Order must prevail” - Biden to protestors calling him out for genocide. Violent crackdowns on student protestors.
Allowing Roe V Wade to be overturned and no plan to reinstate abortion protections. Refusing to pack the courts or play hardball, just letting everything increasingly slip away.
Literal genocide actively funded by Biden.
This is well beyond the point of no return. If Biden had an R next to his name with the same amount of fascism, Blue MAGA might actually give a damn about the lives of Palestinians, instead of trying to pretend Biden is some great hero and shitting on protestors for daring to call him out.
Biden to protestors calling him out for genocide. Violent crackdowns on student protestors.
Last I checked, the executive is not in control of state or local police departments. He did not command them to crack down on protests. He’s doing what a president is supposed to do, which is be the voice of reason. He has never said that the protests were wrong. In fact, he is on record saying that everybody has the right to protest, but they must do so legally. Trespassing and destruction of property are not legal. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I’m sure you’d feel different about it if people broke into your house and wrecked your shit and then tried to argue that they shouldn’t be arrested because it’s their first amendment right to protest.
Allowing Roe V Wade to be overturned
Who appointed the conservative majority that led to that decision? Trump. Yeah, let’s blame the guy sitting in the chair now for the shit his predecessor got rolling last term. Real intelligent take there.
Refusing to pack the courts or play hardball,
If he packed the courts, you’d be saying he’s undemocratic for that. Give me a break. FYI, Biden is pushing for stronger federal protections on abortion rights, so he is doing everything in his power to change things within the framework of his authority in the government. The president is not a king. Congress and the Judicial have to play ball as well.
By the way, packing the courts won’t get Roe v Wade reinstates because they could always decide to not hear the case again. That’s going to take a legislative effort to fix the problem that the courts created in the first place.
Literal genocide actively funded by Biden.
Didn’t ask about that, because the answer was obvious, but thanks for volunteering the information again.
"According to the IHRA, that definition also encompasses the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity”.
The group also includes certain examples in its definition to illustrate anti-Semitism. Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”."
Also the tiktok ban is because of its contributions to anti-Israeli sentiment among young people.
That’s not true. It’s because of it’s ties to China. if it were just about Anti-Israeli sentiment, they wouldn’t allow the platform to exist by allowing Bytedance to sell it to an American company. I also don’t agree with the TikTok ban, for the record, but I’m not making up bullshit about what the ban is actually about.
So you don’t want Biden, but you don’t want Trump either, but you can’t have it both ways. No matter if you turn out to vote or not, you are getting one of those two choices. That’s a fact. We’re stuck in the Prisoner’s Dilemma Election, and it’s time to decide if we’re going to play the game to win or not.
There’s far more at stake this year than just the fate of Gaza, but shortsightedness is going to kill us.
Holy shit, genocide minimizing.
Scratch a liberal…
How is this minimizing genocide? I’ve acknowledged that it’s a serious problem.
What’s your solution?
Saying that there’s far more at stake than an ongoing genocide minimizes genocide.
My solution is to protest as loudly as possible and donate my time, money, and energy to stopping genocide, and not waste anyone’s time by trying to inhumanly minimize genocide.
More than one thing can be true at the same time. Stopping the genocide in Gaza is important. Stopping the rise of fascism in America is important. Stopping the erosion of civil liberties in America is important. Minimizing genocide would be me saying “It’s not that bad”, which I don’t believe is true. It is that bad. I just disagree with the apparent strategy that the nascent leftists have embraced, which is to cut off the nose to spite the face, a strategy that will ultimately end up with a continuation of the status quo at best and risks a rapid acceleration of all of the problems I mentioned above in the worst case scenario.
By all means, protest and donate your money and time to the effort. That seems to be making an impact to some degree.
None of that is going to stop by voting for Biden, lol. We are seeing a rise in fascism, an erosion of civil liberties, and genocide, under Biden. Yes, Trump would probably be worse on some of these aspects, or even all, but we are already well beyond what should be unacceptable.
Protesting and donating is doing far more for gazans than sucking up to Biden and minimizing his atrocities ever will, and I say that as someone that will likely still vote for him.
Can you give me some examples of fascist behavior or civil liberty erosion directly caused by Biden’s policies?
Sure.
“Order must prevail” - Biden to protestors calling him out for genocide. Violent crackdowns on student protestors.
Allowing Roe V Wade to be overturned and no plan to reinstate abortion protections. Refusing to pack the courts or play hardball, just letting everything increasingly slip away.
Literal genocide actively funded by Biden.
This is well beyond the point of no return. If Biden had an R next to his name with the same amount of fascism, Blue MAGA might actually give a damn about the lives of Palestinians, instead of trying to pretend Biden is some great hero and shitting on protestors for daring to call him out.
Last I checked, the executive is not in control of state or local police departments. He did not command them to crack down on protests. He’s doing what a president is supposed to do, which is be the voice of reason. He has never said that the protests were wrong. In fact, he is on record saying that everybody has the right to protest, but they must do so legally. Trespassing and destruction of property are not legal. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I’m sure you’d feel different about it if people broke into your house and wrecked your shit and then tried to argue that they shouldn’t be arrested because it’s their first amendment right to protest.
Who appointed the conservative majority that led to that decision? Trump. Yeah, let’s blame the guy sitting in the chair now for the shit his predecessor got rolling last term. Real intelligent take there.
If he packed the courts, you’d be saying he’s undemocratic for that. Give me a break. FYI, Biden is pushing for stronger federal protections on abortion rights, so he is doing everything in his power to change things within the framework of his authority in the government. The president is not a king. Congress and the Judicial have to play ball as well.
By the way, packing the courts won’t get Roe v Wade reinstates because they could always decide to not hear the case again. That’s going to take a legislative effort to fix the problem that the courts created in the first place.
Didn’t ask about that, because the answer was obvious, but thanks for volunteering the information again.
I remain unconvinced.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/1/us-house-passes-controversial-bill-that-expands-definition-of-anti-semitism
"According to the IHRA, that definition also encompasses the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity”.
The group also includes certain examples in its definition to illustrate anti-Semitism. Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws
Also the tiktok ban is because of its contributions to anti-Israeli sentiment among young people.
That bill hasn’t been signed into law yet, btw.
That’s not true. It’s because of it’s ties to China. if it were just about Anti-Israeli sentiment, they wouldn’t allow the platform to exist by allowing Bytedance to sell it to an American company. I also don’t agree with the TikTok ban, for the record, but I’m not making up bullshit about what the ban is actually about.