“I expect a semi-dystopian future with substantial pain and suffering for the people of the Global South,” one expert said.

    • @[email protected]
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      18 months ago

      Why do you persist in assuming that all those shitty circumstances would continue to exist when they are exactly the things I’m saying we should be fixing? The whole idea is to have lots of nearby employers, good train and bus connections, grocery stores within walking distance (and with little to no parking), etc.

      The #1 priority for reducing climate change (and fixing almost all our problems, from housing affordability to obesity) is zoning reform.

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          18 months ago

          It even starts with the simple fact that people are simply not willing to get rid of their cars, even if public transport was good and completely free. So you’d be left with enforcing people not to drive, which is obviously also not going to happen for the same reasons.

          Induced demand can work in reverse. Stop expanding roads. Redesignate some lanes to public transport only. Why take the car and sit in a queue for 2 hours when a bus can get you to work in 30 minutes without any queues?

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              18 months ago

              That’s a decades long process. We need proper action done within this decade.

              We don’t know that. If it turns out that the actual ECS value is higher than predicted we’re already fucked because whatever faction we might take today should’ve already been taken decades ago. If a global humanitarian crisis is mere decades away, no changes we’ll feasibly make today or in the near future will stave it off.

              You’d be surprised how many people would take that over a ride with other people.

              An alternative is also that those who can, do their job remotely. Covid proved the feasibility of that. You couldn’t pay me enough to start commuting or doing my own grocery runs again. I only go outside for enjoyment and none of it involves vehicles. Unless said vehicle is a bicycle, because my dog really enjoys cycling.

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                  18 months ago

                  That’s true either way with where we’re at. That’s why we call for drastic actions to be taken

                  So what exactly is the end goal for these drastic actions?