• @Anyolduser
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    181 month ago

    No, they don’t want the profits getting funneled off to China.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      Thats great for GM and Ford shareholders. It just means Americans can’t afford cars.

      • @Anyolduser
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        101 month ago

        Sure. And - ya know - not funneling money into a totalitarian regime.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          It’s not so much about where it goes, more so the fact that it doesn’t stay in America. This is about saving the American auto industry. Whether it’s for the jobs that would be lost or the profits of the shareholders.

          • @Anyolduser
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            21 month ago

            That’s a bingo.

            The idea that “they” don’t want the American public driving EVs is ridiculous.

            • @[email protected]
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              51 month ago

              You misunderstand. This is protectionism plain and simple. US car companies are horribly inefficient. Better yet, the US car cartel eliminated most of their budget models to push trucks and SUVs that are more expensive. It doesn’t take much to undercut them, so the US government is banning the competition.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 month ago

            The military will just order a million new pickup trucks as light utility vehicles.

            And the Answer to jobs isn’t more punishment.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        So what about Tesla, Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, and all the rest? You say we can’t afford cars yet 15 million new cars are sold every year here. New cars have never been something that just anyone can buy which is why the used market is so much larger.

        Selling Chinese EVs here below cost isn’t going to improve anything. It’s just going to put a bunch of competitors out of business and drive wages even further down.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          The cost of cars has not scaled with incomes. EVs are also much cheaper to manufacture yet because of lack of competition they only sell luxury cars. Nissan admittedly tried but I think that was just too early to market with a mediocre product.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 month ago

            The added price is likely partially due to the development costs for these companies retooling their factories and doing R&D to develop these new platforms in a company that has been building ICE vehicles for the past 50-100 years. Luxury vehicles bring a markup that helps to offset these costs until these vehicles become more ubiquitous, parts are easier to source, and prices come down. You can’t compare the cost of a brand new design to something like the Camry which had the general design ironed out 40+ years ago.

            If you look at sales numbers, the Model 3 is outselling the cheap alternatives like the Leaf and Bolt 20:1, so it seems like many people are willingly choosing to pay more rather than buy the econobox option. The average sale price for a (any) new vehicle is around $50k currently, and there are a multitude of options in that price range.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              This is all true. I just genuinely believe more EVs to market would be good for the consumer over the coming years.

              • @[email protected]
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                21 month ago

                I agree, but I think we’ll have to wait for the technology to mature a bit. It seems the battery chemistry and design are what’s stalling things but lots of companies are investing in new tech like solid state batteries.

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          11 month ago

          If you want everyone to switch to EVs you need some that are cost competitive with gas vehicles.