Important clarification/FAQ

I am not calling to coddle or excuse the behavior of bigoted men in any way!

I am calling to be kind and understanding to young men (often ages 10-20) who are very manipulable and succeptible to the massive anti feminist propaganda machine. Hope this clarifies that very important distinction. :)

Very good comments that express key points:

Edit: This post has now been removed and restored twice. I want to encourage you all:

Be decent to one another

I think this post is a valuable thing given the current state of the Fediverse, please don’t fuck it up for us by being toxic in the comments.

  • Bonehead
    link
    fedilink
    42 months ago

    That’s fine. No one is forcing you to be around unknown women. And those women aren’t going to be offended that you don’t want to be around them. Those woman aren’t going to call you completely irrational for choosing not to be around them. Those women aren’t going to demand that you empathize with them. You are free to feel however you want.

      • Bonehead
        link
        fedilink
        32 months ago

        Then why is this post filled with men upset that unknown women don’t want to be alone with them?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          52 months ago

          You tell me. People aren’t forced to be around unknown people. Ever. According to you.

          I’m sure those unknown women would think I’m silly for just wanting to be in a room with people who aren’t going to sexually harass me.

          • Bonehead
            link
            fedilink
            32 months ago

            I’m sure those unknown women would think I’m silly for just wanting to be in a room with people who aren’t going to sexually harass me.

            Why would anyone do that? No one wants to be sexually harassed. That’s the point women are trying to make. They don’t want to be sexually harassed either, that’s why they are choosing the bear.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              52 months ago

              I understand their point completely. But in my experience, I’ve been sexually harassed way more times by women than by gay men. They definitely feel they have a right to express their desire, because as a man… I’m obviously trying to fuck everything in sight. (Sarcasm)

              • Bonehead
                link
                fedilink
                32 months ago

                Let’s just make this clear.

                IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU!

                Seriously, you don’t have to take it personally. Women aren’t saying they’d rather be alone with a bear than you, specifically. Just as all women aren’t the same as the women that have harrassed you, you are not the same as the men that have harrassed them. You, specifically, are not the man they’d choose a bear over. You are not the subject of their feelings. Stop taking it personally, and you won’t feel bad.

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  32 months ago

                  “Unknown men” includes me if they don’t know me.

                  I’m not upset they don’t want to be around me. The feeling is so mutual.

                  But let’s be real clear.: Women can be inappropriate too, and often are.

                  Everyone is trash. Especially the ones who dismiss things by saying “this isn’t about you” when it is about everyone who is impacted by it.

                  • Bonehead
                    link
                    fedilink
                    22 months ago

                    “Unknown men” includes me if they don’t know me.

                    You are specifically choosing to put yourself in that group and then get offended by it. That’s no one else’s problem but your own. Yes, I’m dismissing what you say, because you keep trying to portray yourself as a victim when it has nothing to do with you. You’re not a victim just because a woman who doesn’t know you would choose not to be alone with you.