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“Both sides” is just one of those things centrists say when they know they’re wrong but don’t want to change.
Also my co-workers and conservative family love to say it whenever a Republican does something illegal or immoral. It’s a scape goat they throw out when they get backed into a corner and can’t face the fact that they’re wrong.
It’s exactly why Republican media spends so much time projecting. It’s a protective mechanism. If they can say the left is exactly the same kind of bad, even if it’s a complete lie, then you get to stick with the party you want to instead of considering changing if you do happen to recognize how bad they are.
“BoTh SiDeS” helps Republicans tremendously.
It’s what conservatives say to avoid responsibility for bad behavior, yes.
Funny. I call myselft a centerist and don’t do that. Progressive/leftists don’t consider me progressive leftist because Im not in lockstep with everything the particular leftist/progressive believes in and they are right. Im left of center which means im firmly a democrat as republicans are no were near center at all. If someone is saying both sides I don’t think they are anywhere near to center. Its like saying both sides with the ukraine/russia thing.
are you a moderate then? it sounds like you need a better vocabulary/better definitions of political actions.
in real terms im left of center so in american terms im super left and in republican terms im a no good communist .what I want is regulation, a progressive tax structure, and decent social programs.
so why would you call yourself a centrist, when you’re not?
when the extremes respond to you as being aweful what else can you be. I support biden and democrats because I have lived through republican in power and I would rather make small progress than go backwards. Again globally im left of center I would says.
that’s not a centrist.
to you, but others feel different and again globally it really is. Yes a left of the center overall but close to the center. In the us im a crazy leftist but we are way skewed right at least as far as who gets elected. So if I was in congress then yes I would be akin to bernie but plop him and me in most parlements and we would be close to center. for now anyway as it feels like the rest of the world is following the us lead in leaning right overall.
Centrist means you favour the status quo, and generally obstruct progress. What you’ve described is not centrism, unless I guess your country already has those things.
And even then that’s a very literal interpretation of centrism, and not at all what it’s come to mean
when the extremes respond to you as being aweful what else can you be. I support biden and democrats because I have lived through republican in power and I would rather make small progress than go backwards. Again globally im left of center I would says.
which has nothing to do with centrists.
Another common tactic/fallacy is exaggerating the claim. Example: saying something “screams” about “both sides”. The bit about screaming is unneeded and is just added to make it easy to argue against it.
That’s not the same and not what is meant as “both sides”. And again, people aren’t screaming. I’d maybe take your comment more seriously if it didn’t ignore things while adding a fallacy to discuss a common fallacy.
That you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. There are tons of people posting daily the bullshit about both sides. I’d name them, but then I’d be banned for it.
Tons of people urging others not to vote. Tons of people saying both sides are the same- because of a single issue. And one they barely understand.
Don’t confuse the insistence that people get out and vote, and the calling out of bad actors anything other than what it is- an attempt to prop up American democracy and keep us from having to endure another four years of dictatorship.
Some people go out of their way to not understand or not see something.
Oh they see it. They just like pretending it’s not a problem.
It’s like a free ride when you’ve already paid
Both sides do have legitimate criticisms. It’s very important to be critical of elected leaders.
But there are for more severe criticisms on one side than the other.