President Joe Biden condemned by the move by the International Criminal Court to seek arrest warrants against Israeli leaders, saying that there was “no equivalence” between that country’s actions and those of Hamas. Earlier today, the ICC issued a legal report in which a panel of international law experts supported a prosecutor’s conclusion that there […]
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Yeah man we can recognize that, does it have to be in this thread though? This one where he’s saying horrible fucking things? Is that not an appropriate time to be mad at him? When he sits there saying that murdering thousands of children isn’t a crime is that not the perfect time to rebuke the man? If not now when?
Nah. Palestine is a terrorist state.
And Israel is a genocidal terrorist state.
This is the way war works. They shouldn’t have started a fight with a much bigger, more powerful neighbor. Force is the ultimate arbiter
They started a fight? I guess every action by Israel prior to 7th October 2023 can be conveniently ignored, then?
The strong win and make the rules. It’s the way it’s always worked bud
So you’re saying since the weaker party attacked a stronger one, they deserve the genocide performed to their people that had nothing to do with the attack?
There’s collateral damage in wars. And when the cowards who started the war use civilian buildings as bases, and hide amongst civilians, it isn’t the other sides fault for the collateral damage that incurs.
Also, it isn’t genocide
Hi. Old soldier here. You’re wrong. Go home and think about your life choices. The entire idea of war crimes was created by soldiers. Violating those laws isn’t some kind of alpha power move. It’s weak and cowardly. If they’re so much stronger then they should be able to protect the civilians. They either cannot and are lying, or will not and deserve the violence they receive.
Hey guys, this dudes a soldier so he must be super well educated in international relations!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relations)
You saw the “no central authority” line and thought this would be a good idea didn’t you? But no. Rules of war have existed for thousands of years. Because even ancient soldiers and their countries realized you still had to live with your neighbors after you fight. Realism does not preclude rules and agreements. It just means countries are going to look after their self interest first. This is what you get for citing Wikipedia on something you go to college for. (I actually did by the way. The GI Bill paid for studies in international politics)
There’s also Liberalism, Rationalism, and Constructivism. But for some reason all the edgy kids go straight for Realism. The truth is the world order is made with a mix of these ideas. We have the UN, a liberal institution. The UN cannot act without the Security Council, a realist institution. But no, nobody wants to hear that. It’s all got to be that sexy Realism, because then they’re free to do whatever they want.
Well guess what? That never worked. The last pure realist died of a stroke in 1953. Even GW Bush called up NATO for Afghanistan and put together a coalition for Iraq. For all his bluster about acting unilaterally he wasn’t a pure realist.
I don’t have much time to continue this conversation with you (and I’ll ignore the attempts at belittling my stance), but I will just add that Liberalism, Idealism, etc are really only relevant when the other side(s) are also abiding by those norms. As soon as one side pursues Realist actions (like Bibi, Hamas, or Putin), then the only response is to match their force.
Also:
Just to try to clarify my reasoning on even bringing this up - I’m not trying to justify individual soldiers’ actions in a specific conflict. I’m trying to make it clear that in state vs. state conflicts, what you would typically consider to be norms go out the window as each will prioritize their security and power. Thus, when one that is weaker attacks another that is stronger, you should expect an overwhelming response
Funny how someone coming to your home and telling you they own your house now, and might have to shoot your children, and you’re only allowed to live now where there is no food or water or employment or safety, will lead to that sometimes.
Hamas is a horrible corrupt criminal terrorist organization, I agree. Killing and raping a bunch of people at a music festival is still a monstrous crime, whatever Israel has been doing, and also it will not help the Palestinians any. But it’s not like Hamas wandered into someone else’s homeland and started making trouble where there wasn’t any before.
Meh, the strong win wars and make the rules. Read some history
HERE we go
I was waiting for this.
A super obnoxious anti-Palestine user, who also supports Biden and thinks we have to stop Trump from getting elected. I didn’t like dig through your profile in detail, but those were the only two categories of comments I saw right off. This is the higher level shilling I was waiting for – this is gonna be way more effective than “Biden is the worst, I’m not voting” which at this point is just setting yourself up to get yelled at by everybody and solidify the groupthink in the opposite direction than you wanted to.
I think you’re being a little cartoonish with it though. Like it’s immediately obvious reading this comment that something is very wrong. I think you wanna be a little more subtle instead of just crashing through the gate like “FUCK PALESTINE, YAY BIDEN, AGBLARBLRBRA”
(Account created 14 days ago – I predict we’ll see a bunch more of these, too, maybe with a little more subtle of an approach 🤣)
Joe Biden is literally throwing this election live in front of us, and yet you put no blame on him?
Joe Biden is literally supplying an army with ammunition to murder civilians live in front of us, and yet you put no blame on him?
FTFY
I want to say he’s securing his survival in the upcoming coup but that guy’s fucked both ways to sunday.
OP is a well known propaganda poster, they are absolutely not representative of the community.
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