At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.

Finally, after curling up with the dog on the floor, Perez broke down and confessed. He said he had stabbed his father multiple times with a pair of scissors during an altercation in which his father hit Perez over the head with a beer bottle.

Perez’s father wasn’t dead — or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didn’t immediately tell Perez.

  • @[email protected]
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    2244 months ago

    There wasn’t even a crime and they got a confession.

    This should make every confession they’ve ever received inadmissible.

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        164 months ago

        But how can it nullify a plea deal that was met because of all the “proof” they had from a tortured confession? If I knew it was fake but could stop the torture sooner I’d immediately confess and plea for less time if I’m having to serve it anyways.

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            14 months ago

            in cases where the burden of proof is too difficult and can cause problems

            Wasn’t there like “innocent until proven guilty”? I know that isn’t for every crime, but for murder it is iirc

            This is so fucked up 😰

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              44 months ago

              Plea deals are basically you just accepting whatever comes your way regardless of your actual culpability. They aren’t concerned with actual fault so much as being a steam release valve on the system to concerve the effort police need to prove actual fault. As far as civil case law is concerned I think they have value in terms of conserving the limited resources of court time as well as personal hastle and the resources needed for regular disputes to gain resolution… But I personally think that plea deals pushed by persecution in criminal case law should be flat out illegal. If you want actual justice then relying on a system that exploits power imbalances between the individual and the State we need to see a commitment to actually giving people a full shake of presumption of innocence by the system and maybe consequences for cops who waste court time with poorly evidenced charges.

              There are way too many people who take plea deals basically because they are poor.

              • lad
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                14 months ago

                What I meant is if they have a hard time proving guilt that might be because there is no guilt.

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            14 months ago

            A standard plea deal is an admission of some form of guilt, usually less than what the prosecutor would charge for trial, in exchange for a lighter sentence. You (defendant) are not admitting you did it regardless of whether or not you actually did it. You’re just admitting guilt.

            What you’re describing is called an Alford plea. This is where, in making the plea, you maintain innocence but acknowledge the prosecutor has enough evidence to overcome reasonable doubt. There’s an excellent documentary called

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            The Staircase

            that results in one.