Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can’t be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can’t be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive.
Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn’t a contested one.
It’s nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people.
“It’s nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it’s a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women.”
Please explain how what you’re saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out.
Your view is not even popular, so don’t say you’re speaking for “us real trans people”.
> A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature.
If you clarify what you mean by “hot” and “cold”, I’m sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn’t match your simplistic, obstinate understanding.
I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs.
But I get where you’re coming from. You’ve suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don’t suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for.
Hurt people hurt people. You’re lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you.
You don’t understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren’t real. They’re invading trans spaces: they don’t understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do.
But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric.
Fem and woman aren’t synonyms. How else would you describe someone who was AMAB but is librafem, isn’t a woman and even further from being a man, but still has a connection to femininity?
Lots of transfem people are women, but its sorta like a rectangle and square (all squares are rectangles, but only some rectangles are squares). Practically all trans woman are transfem, but not all transfem people are women.
A feminine gender identity is equivalent to womanhood. People who identify as feminine are also women to some extent even if they don’t call themselves women, this is especially true for trans women who are in-denial of their transness (i.e. people who claim to be femboys yet want boobs and pretty faces).
A gender identity is male, female, nonbinary, and various combinations of male + nonbinary and female + nonbinary (demiboy demigirl etc.) a gender identity is not male + female or male + female + nonbinary (bigender and trigender is not valid gender identity) a gender identity is also not wanting to be an inanimate object, mythical creature, or non-human animals, Xenogenders are an insult to the trans community and what it means to be transgender. If you say your pronouns are catself, dollself, demonself or anything else stupid like that I will not only not use them I will make fun of you for being a sad pathetic piece of shit human who pretends to be trans because he/she finds it so hip and cool, fuck you for appropriating trans experiences.
You’ve just given me examples of genders (and, for unexplained reasons, declared that some of those examples are “not valid”). I wonder if you would be so kind as to enlighten me as to the nature of gender in general?
Let me put it simply then, Gender is based on sex of the brain, some people have a brain that is male, some people have a brain that is female, and some people have brain deformities that render them neither (nonbinary). The people who claim to be Xenogenders or multiple genders are lying because you cannot have brain sex that is a dragon, doll, demon or whatever, and you cannot have brain sex that is both male and female at the same time. They are pretending to be transgender for fun and appropriating our suffering.
Interesting: you talk about “sex of the brain” and “brain deformities”. That suggests you’re aware of concrete ways in which gender corresponds to structural characteristics of the encephalon: neophrenology, in other words.
Whereas it was my understanding that every attempt to sex people using fMRI pinpointed different structures each time and perpetually failed to replicate, and that absolutely none of what you say is remotely the academic consensus.
because nonbinary is being neither male nor female and transfem is being a woman, a binary gender. They are not the same thing.
Your definitions are overly simplistic. There are bigender people who are male and female and are still non-binary.
Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can’t be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can’t be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive.
Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn’t a contested one.
Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references.
It’s nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people.
“It’s nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it’s a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women.”
Please explain how what you’re saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out.
Your view is not even popular, so don’t say you’re speaking for “us real trans people”.
Regarding your “hot and cold” analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature:
> A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature.
If you clarify what you mean by “hot” and “cold”, I’m sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn’t match your simplistic, obstinate understanding.
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I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs.
But I get where you’re coming from. You’ve suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don’t suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for.
But since when is being trans about suffering?
Hurt people hurt people. You’re lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you.
You don’t understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren’t real. They’re invading trans spaces: they don’t understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do.
But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric.
Fem and woman aren’t synonyms. How else would you describe someone who was AMAB but is librafem, isn’t a woman and even further from being a man, but still has a connection to femininity?
Lots of transfem people are women, but its sorta like a rectangle and square (all squares are rectangles, but only some rectangles are squares). Practically all trans woman are transfem, but not all transfem people are women.
A feminine gender identity is equivalent to womanhood. People who identify as feminine are also women to some extent even if they don’t call themselves women, this is especially true for trans women who are in-denial of their transness (i.e. people who claim to be femboys yet want boobs and pretty faces).
(This is incorrect.)
Since you say so, you must know what a gender identity is. Tell me then, what is gender? What principle makes something a gender, or not a gender?
A gender identity is male, female, nonbinary, and various combinations of male + nonbinary and female + nonbinary (demiboy demigirl etc.) a gender identity is not male + female or male + female + nonbinary (bigender and trigender is not valid gender identity) a gender identity is also not wanting to be an inanimate object, mythical creature, or non-human animals, Xenogenders are an insult to the trans community and what it means to be transgender. If you say your pronouns are catself, dollself, demonself or anything else stupid like that I will not only not use them I will make fun of you for being a sad pathetic piece of shit human who pretends to be trans because he/she finds it so hip and cool, fuck you for appropriating trans experiences.
You’ve just given me examples of genders (and, for unexplained reasons, declared that some of those examples are “not valid”). I wonder if you would be so kind as to enlighten me as to the nature of gender in general?
Let me put it simply then, Gender is based on sex of the brain, some people have a brain that is male, some people have a brain that is female, and some people have brain deformities that render them neither (nonbinary). The people who claim to be Xenogenders or multiple genders are lying because you cannot have brain sex that is a dragon, doll, demon or whatever, and you cannot have brain sex that is both male and female at the same time. They are pretending to be transgender for fun and appropriating our suffering.
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Pinnacle of cis male maturity aren’t you, cissy.
Interesting: you talk about “sex of the brain” and “brain deformities”. That suggests you’re aware of concrete ways in which gender corresponds to structural characteristics of the encephalon: neophrenology, in other words.
Whereas it was my understanding that every attempt to sex people using fMRI pinpointed different structures each time and perpetually failed to replicate, and that absolutely none of what you say is remotely the academic consensus.
Why do you think this?