Toronto police say they’re looking for multiple suspects who allegedly shot at an elementary school in North York early Saturday morning.

“We’re not going to ignore the obvious, you know, what occurred here and what the target of the shooting was,” he said. “But at the same time, it will be wrong to just guess at this point.”

  • Flying SquidMEnglish
    2•6 months ago

    Can you show me where it says that is how a school shooting is counted in the U.S.?

    • @AnyolduserEnglish
      2•6 months ago

      There’s no uniform definition, but groups with an agenda will count any discharge of a firearm on property owned by a school as a school shooting regardless of circumstances.

      One notorious case was a person who committed suicide in the parking lot of a closed down school. It happened in the middle of the night and classes hadn’t been held in that building for years. Advocacy groups still counted it.

      NPR did a whole investigation into over reporting in 2018. Here’s a link:

      https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

      • Flying SquidMEnglish
        2•6 months ago

        You said, and I quote:

        The school doesnt have to be open or have any students on campus to be consideeed a school shooting.

        This certainly implies that there is a uniform definition.

        If you meant that certain specific groups with certain biases define a school shooting as any shooting that happens involving a school, including ones when the building is empty, you should have said it.

        Also, from your article:

        The Education Department, asked for comment on our reporting, noted that it relies on school districts to provide accurate information in the survey responses

        So it sounds like “they,” when you said, “Well yes, but thats how they count school shootings, or at least in the US.” are the different many school districts in the country and they don’t all count them the same way.

        Basically, your claim seems to be some groups or other, which you have not named, define school shootings in a stupid way.

        Very informative.

        • @AnyolduserEnglish
          2•6 months ago

          Fuck me for trying to answer your question, I guess.

          • Flying SquidMEnglish
            3•6 months ago

            My question was regarding your initial statement. You did answer it. Your answer is that by “The school doesnt have to be open or have any students on campus to be consideeed a school shooting,” what you meant was, “according to certain unnamed groups with an agenda I have not stated, it counts as a school shooting when the building is empty.”

            So, again, thanks. Very informative about the unnamed groups with the unstated agenda.