Nobody would ever vote for a criminal. Now imagine the president supported a straight up Genocide! Adolf Hitler style! Everyone would jump ship to a third party!
I’m reading this and can’t discern if you’re serious. On the one hand, the argument is insane and doesn’t address the actual calculus behind strategic voting. On the other hand, it reads exactly like what someone would say if they hadn’t thought about it other than deciding that voting is a moral evil a-priori and blurted out the first justification.
You make a good point. Trump is both a criminal and also has said out loud that he supports genocide. Thanks for bringing that up. Sometimes I forget which president has openly stated their support for genocide. So being reminded that it was Trump and only Trump is helpful.
Right, but the point of the displacement-style genocide is partly deniability.
You’re still eradicating a culture and people, but the camp guards don’t kill themselves or spend the rest of their lives drinking themselves to death.
You’ll even find chuds defending it a hundred years later because “it was mostly disease that killed them” and such.
Whoa whoa whoa you ignorant fuck. America wasn’t even a country when most indigenous tribes were wiped from the Americas. We have the Spaniards and French to thank for that. But even still, 90% of the native population was slautered during colonization of the America’s. The Trail of Tears was really America just taking credit for it all.
I’ve been thinking about your weird claims about IDF bots on social media promoting Biden, and frankly it doesn’t make any sense. So let’s just grant this idea that there’s this large Israeli presence doing what Russia is doing in addition to the widely verified lobbying operations. Why would they encourage people to vote for Biden? Israel’s goals are better facilitated by a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency, so why dedicate resources to getting Biden elected that don’t make him compliant?
Frankly, it’d make more sense for them to encourage people to vote third party so Biden loses. Incidentally, that’s exactly what you’re doing. Even if you’re not doing it on purpose, you’re using the bodies of dead Palestinians to justify a position that hurts them; for all your moral posturing, your actions are supporting genocide more directly than someone who votes for Biden in silence.
As I alluded to in my previous comment, lobbying ensures compliance by creating a sense of dependancy or potentially gratitude; lots of lobbyist donate to people who they don’t prefer in an attempt to influence them. It doesn’t make sense to support the same kind of clientele with online bot accounts, so you need to show that Israel is likely to prefer Biden over Trump for it to make sense that a hypothetical bot team would even support Biden.
IDF shills
Not relevant.
Just for a second, let’s assume you’re both honest and correct. It makes sense for people who happen to both be Zionists and prefer Biden to argue in favor of Biden while entirely disregarding the genocide. Merely noticing these people does not show that the Israeli interests prefer Biden, even if we already assume the IDF bots not only exist but are present in large numbers.
Notice how I’m granting a lot that I don’t need to while still showing you don’t have a good argument for your previous claim.
What you don’t factor in is that these people are not trying to turn Democrats into trump supporters.
Israel owns both sides of the two party system a threat for them would be a third party. Your logic is entirely dependent on pretending that Trump would be so much better for israel while in fact it cannot get much better than Biden for israel.
so you need to show that Israel is likely to prefer Biden over Trump for it to make sense that a hypothetical bot team would even support Biden.
Like, let’s say you stole a lot of money from a lot of people vs you went to a place and stole the same amount of money from less people. You get shot for one and you get to run for the other.
3 years of prison for each count? Never gonna happen. That guy is Teflon.
Whoa that’s insane.
Nobody would ever vote for a criminal. Now imagine the president supported a straight up Genocide! Adolf Hitler style! Everyone would jump ship to a third party!
Anyone who thinks voting third party is a solution is just a useful idiot for people much worse than Biden.
Who told you that? People who support those two parties? The corporations that fund those two parties? Maybe you’ve been played.
I’m reading this and can’t discern if you’re serious. On the one hand, the argument is insane and doesn’t address the actual calculus behind strategic voting. On the other hand, it reads exactly like what someone would say if they hadn’t thought about it other than deciding that voting is a moral evil a-priori and blurted out the first justification.
I feel the same way about what you wrote.
Where is the substance? Nothing you wrote actually addressed the issue, and your speculation was inaccurate as well. Meh.
You’re too stupid to understand how criticism works.
You make a good point. Trump is both a criminal and also has said out loud that he supports genocide. Thanks for bringing that up. Sometimes I forget which president has openly stated their support for genocide. So being reminded that it was Trump and only Trump is helpful.
It’s more an Andrew Jackson-style genocide
The OG Hitlers.
Fun fact for those that don’t know; Hitler was heavily inspired by how America Genocided all the Natives and filled the land with white people.
Fuckcars moment
Right, but the point of the displacement-style genocide is partly deniability.
You’re still eradicating a culture and people, but the camp guards don’t kill themselves or spend the rest of their lives drinking themselves to death.
You’ll even find chuds defending it a hundred years later because “it was mostly disease that killed them” and such.
Whoa whoa whoa you ignorant fuck. America wasn’t even a country when most indigenous tribes were wiped from the Americas. We have the Spaniards and French to thank for that. But even still, 90% of the native population was slautered during colonization of the America’s. The Trail of Tears was really America just taking credit for it all.
I’ve been thinking about your weird claims about IDF bots on social media promoting Biden, and frankly it doesn’t make any sense. So let’s just grant this idea that there’s this large Israeli presence doing what Russia is doing in addition to the widely verified lobbying operations. Why would they encourage people to vote for Biden? Israel’s goals are better facilitated by a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency, so why dedicate resources to getting Biden elected that don’t make him compliant?
Frankly, it’d make more sense for them to encourage people to vote third party so Biden loses. Incidentally, that’s exactly what you’re doing. Even if you’re not doing it on purpose, you’re using the bodies of dead Palestinians to justify a position that hurts them; for all your moral posturing, your actions are supporting genocide more directly than someone who votes for Biden in silence.
Who is the biggest AIPAC lobby recipient again?
Also you don’t have to theorize this. Multiple heavy IDF shills (the non subtle kind) actively defend Biden.
Doesn’t matter.
As I alluded to in my previous comment, lobbying ensures compliance by creating a sense of dependancy or potentially gratitude; lots of lobbyist donate to people who they don’t prefer in an attempt to influence them. It doesn’t make sense to support the same kind of clientele with online bot accounts, so you need to show that Israel is likely to prefer Biden over Trump for it to make sense that a hypothetical bot team would even support Biden.
Not relevant.
Just for a second, let’s assume you’re both honest and correct. It makes sense for people who happen to both be Zionists and prefer Biden to argue in favor of Biden while entirely disregarding the genocide. Merely noticing these people does not show that the Israeli interests prefer Biden, even if we already assume the IDF bots not only exist but are present in large numbers.
Notice how I’m granting a lot that I don’t need to while still showing you don’t have a good argument for your previous claim.
What you don’t factor in is that these people are not trying to turn Democrats into trump supporters.
Israel owns both sides of the two party system a threat for them would be a third party. Your logic is entirely dependent on pretending that Trump would be so much better for israel while in fact it cannot get much better than Biden for israel.
Have you never seen this yet?
You didn’t even read what I wrote, did you?
That Biden Zionists are just an “organic movement”?
What do you think political campaign donations signify?
Like, let’s say you stole a lot of money from a lot of people vs you went to a place and stole the same amount of money from less people. You get shot for one and you get to run for the other.
3 years of prison for each count? Never gonna happen. That guy is Teflon.
He’s poisoning our water supply?
He’s very sensitive to scrapes from metal objects and burned carbohydrates?
He’s owned by a corporation and licensed out to several others?
Probably yes to all of the above, come to think of it.
None do