And no, it’s not the same. If it was, then a maga supporter could claim that my uncommitted vote is actually a vote for Biden because I didn’t vote for Trump. Time to give up on this talking point, it’s nonsensical.
It’s not because the land-focused voting system we have favors republicans, not to mention gerrymandering.
Also I swear you’ve forgotten 2020. The same fucking thing happened, people didn’t want to vote for a moderate democrat, and so a racist, abusive fascist got elected instead.
So Dems can literally do anything and you’ll support them. They support genocide and you accept that.
Let me guess, if we just vote the technically lesser evil they’ll change this time, right? If we just elect one more corporate dem with lobby money falling out of their ass that’ll get the party to change direction, right?
Just keep voting Republican-lite and one of these days the slide towards fascism will reverse, magically. It’s been working really well these last forty years, right? People have done exactly what you’re suggesting and things have just been getting better and better huh.
Delusional. And all just to avoid having to face having your comfortable bubble of denial popped. All those Americans getting churned up and crushed by the consequences of your political support for do-nothing policy just need to understand that you’re doing ok in the status quo, so they need to understand it’s their obligation to protect you. They just gotta take a few more for the team
No ones ignoring the election. You vote and send a clear message that they can’t ignore; Uncommitted. i.e. “I voted against you because of genocide. Period.” There will be no room for blithering about how maybe dems didn’t appeal to imaginary disillusioned Republicans enough or that people want bipartisan genocide or how we can afford to ignore the youth vote blah blah. The reason they lost the vote will be crystal fucking clear.
They can then choose to accept that reality and adjust, or they can deny it and continue doing the same losing strategy. If they continue using the same losing strategy at that point then that is a sure sign that the DNC will never be capable of learning or adapting and that they will never be capable of confronting fascism. And at that point the American people need to start considering harder realities.
The goal is to do harm reduction now, and start building a better candidate for next time.
This has never worked. We are where we are right now because this kind of thinking has been allowed to prevail in the Democratic party. Things have not improved, we have lost basic rights, not gained more. We have grown closer to fascism inder the corporate Democrat leadership, not further.
When they spit in your fucking face next election cycle and tell you to vote for their chosen corporate conservative Dem like a good dog you’ll do it, repeating the same brainless line you’re trying to spin right now.
Know how I know? Because it’s been the same bullshit neoliberals have been doing for forty fucking years. Same trajectory of failure and short-term, fear-based voting.
Oh don’t worry, they’ll be patting themselves on the back. They think that if you just walk away from the trolley problem, they have no fault. Their neck will be in the guillotine and they still won’t see how they contributed to it. Purity politics are a selfish, foolish plague on our nation.
There are only two choices in this election. Democrat or republican. Due to the way the US election system works, not voting against the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy is the same as voting for the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy.
The Israelis committing genocide is not even close to the biggest threat facing our country at the moment.
Plus, Trump literally wants to nuke Gaza, while Biden is trying to get Israeli to agree to a cease fire. Not to mention that congress is responsible for the sales of arms.
From their perspective not voting for Trump is a vote for Biden, which is why it would be great if they acknowlwedged how awful Trump is and kept their MAGA asses at home.
That is because not voting is like voting for your personal worst choice.
The math is literally there, not voting for the closer candidate to you is identical to voting for the other guy.
We have been using small words and slow speaking to explain FPTP to you disingenuous mother fuckers since Nader, just fucking stop acting like you’re doing anything except sea lioning because asking these questions in circles forever has better optics than admitting you care more about feeling valid about whatever white kid bullshit you’re on than you do about saving trans lives.
Tell me, when was the last time a progressive was in the white house? When have we had a progressive house leader? When was the last progressive majority?
Tell me again where the Democratic opposition to the Patriot Act was? How about FISA surveillance? Hmm, Iraq War? No. Citizens United! Surely you neolibs stood in the way of that, right?
Nope, you guys have been at the helm for decades, what’s your record actually show? Where are women’s bodily rights again? How about healthcare reform? At least your guys got to force people to pay for private insurance, right? We’re all so grateful to you for that.
So how’s that opposition to fascism actually going? We elected Biden like you demanded and got a genocide for it. But, maybe you’re right, maybe I’m just not intellectual enough to see how if move the party further and further to the right, to the point where you’re now doing apologetics for a genocide, we’ll eventually turn things around.
I won’t be voting Republican. No.
And no, it’s not the same. If it was, then a maga supporter could claim that my uncommitted vote is actually a vote for Biden because I didn’t vote for Trump. Time to give up on this talking point, it’s nonsensical.
It’s not because the land-focused voting system we have favors republicans, not to mention gerrymandering.
Also I swear you’ve forgotten 2020. The same fucking thing happened, people didn’t want to vote for a moderate democrat, and so a racist, abusive fascist got elected instead.
I will give up this talking point the day the US doesn’t have a two-party system.
So Dems can literally do anything and you’ll support them. They support genocide and you accept that.
Let me guess, if we just vote the technically lesser evil they’ll change this time, right? If we just elect one more corporate dem with lobby money falling out of their ass that’ll get the party to change direction, right?
Just keep voting Republican-lite and one of these days the slide towards fascism will reverse, magically. It’s been working really well these last forty years, right? People have done exactly what you’re suggesting and things have just been getting better and better huh.
Delusional. And all just to avoid having to face having your comfortable bubble of denial popped. All those Americans getting churned up and crushed by the consequences of your political support for do-nothing policy just need to understand that you’re doing ok in the status quo, so they need to understand it’s their obligation to protect you. They just gotta take a few more for the team
The delusion is ignoring the election and then complaining (edit about what gets elected). I’m SURE you won’t do that.
The goal is to do harm reduction now, and start building a better candidate for next time.
No ones ignoring the election. You vote and send a clear message that they can’t ignore; Uncommitted. i.e. “I voted against you because of genocide. Period.” There will be no room for blithering about how maybe dems didn’t appeal to imaginary disillusioned Republicans enough or that people want bipartisan genocide or how we can afford to ignore the youth vote blah blah. The reason they lost the vote will be crystal fucking clear.
They can then choose to accept that reality and adjust, or they can deny it and continue doing the same losing strategy. If they continue using the same losing strategy at that point then that is a sure sign that the DNC will never be capable of learning or adapting and that they will never be capable of confronting fascism. And at that point the American people need to start considering harder realities.
This has never worked. We are where we are right now because this kind of thinking has been allowed to prevail in the Democratic party. Things have not improved, we have lost basic rights, not gained more. We have grown closer to fascism inder the corporate Democrat leadership, not further.
When they spit in your fucking face next election cycle and tell you to vote for their chosen corporate conservative Dem like a good dog you’ll do it, repeating the same brainless line you’re trying to spin right now.
Know how I know? Because it’s been the same bullshit neoliberals have been doing for forty fucking years. Same trajectory of failure and short-term, fear-based voting.
Ok enjoy trump HAPPILY supporting genocide ENTHUSIASTICALLY both in Palestine and in Ukraine.
You are in a limited outcome situation. You get one choice in January: trump or Biden. One of them will be president.
Edit I share the opinion bidens choices are very very bad, I just acknowledge trump will make them worse
Oh don’t worry, they’ll be patting themselves on the back. They think that if you just walk away from the trolley problem, they have no fault. Their neck will be in the guillotine and they still won’t see how they contributed to it. Purity politics are a selfish, foolish plague on our nation.
There are only two choices in this election. Democrat or republican. Due to the way the US election system works, not voting against the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy is the same as voting for the fascists who literally have a playbook on how to destroy the US democracy.
The Israelis committing genocide is not even close to the biggest threat facing our country at the moment.
Plus, Trump literally wants to nuke Gaza, while Biden is trying to get Israeli to agree to a cease fire. Not to mention that congress is responsible for the sales of arms.
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From their perspective not voting for Trump is a vote for Biden, which is why it would be great if they acknowlwedged how awful Trump is and kept their MAGA asses at home.
That is because not voting is like voting for your personal worst choice.
The math is literally there, not voting for the closer candidate to you is identical to voting for the other guy.
We have been using small words and slow speaking to explain FPTP to you disingenuous mother fuckers since Nader, just fucking stop acting like you’re doing anything except sea lioning because asking these questions in circles forever has better optics than admitting you care more about feeling valid about whatever white kid bullshit you’re on than you do about saving trans lives.
Tell me, when was the last time a progressive was in the white house? When have we had a progressive house leader? When was the last progressive majority?
Tell me again where the Democratic opposition to the Patriot Act was? How about FISA surveillance? Hmm, Iraq War? No. Citizens United! Surely you neolibs stood in the way of that, right?
Nope, you guys have been at the helm for decades, what’s your record actually show? Where are women’s bodily rights again? How about healthcare reform? At least your guys got to force people to pay for private insurance, right? We’re all so grateful to you for that.
So how’s that opposition to fascism actually going? We elected Biden like you demanded and got a genocide for it. But, maybe you’re right, maybe I’m just not intellectual enough to see how if move the party further and further to the right, to the point where you’re now doing apologetics for a genocide, we’ll eventually turn things around.
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