I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme
sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there
I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme
sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there
Except people don’t move to a country expecting to not ever work… God forbid we pay for someone WhO DoEsNt DeSeRvE iT until they can get up to speed and on their feet…
We’re such assholes, especially us in the US…
You are absolutely correct, most people want to work when they can, but look at it from the government’s perspective, if they see a severely disabled person in his 50s with zero education, zero knowledge of the language wanting to migrate to the country, what they see is just an expense with few prospects of being able to contribute enough to offset the cost of treating/managing his disabillities.
He may be an absolute genious, but that is not known at the time, the government also must consider that any resources spent on this person can’t be spent on someone else.
So in this case the financial argument is clearly against accepting the person, based on the information the government has, the person should be rejected.
In a purely financial world, that would be it, but luckily we live in a world with more incentives than purely greed.
Taking in the person will generate goodwill in some parts of the world, that might be reason enough to do it, or perhaps the person has valuable information that could also be reason to let them in, perhaps this person is part of a political party in his original country that you want to remain good friends with, then this is an excellent opportunity to show support.
All of this is extermely cold and calculating, I absolutely conceede that, but a government can selldom afford to let feelings dictate policy.
Even governments showing compassion do it for their own gain, it’s good PR!
This is reality, and it is better to face it and deal with it than to fight with an immaginary entity.
There’s lots that do, and not everyone will be capable of contributing. What about a mother of two kids with autism? She can’t work, will spend all her time caring for her kids who will into ever be a burden on the system.
Every system is abused, that’s why they have limitations.
Ah, but is the cost of enforcing limitations justified by the amount of abuse that is being prevented? In a lot of cases, and in practically every case when it comes to a big government program, the answer is “no”, and we end up spending millions to prevent thousands of dollars being wasted.
Uhh no it doesn’t, why are you assuming that? How does preventing people coming in spend millions and save thousands?
Border enforcement is expensive. Hundreds of millions of dollars spent on military equipment, teams of enforcement officers, detention centers, transportation infrastructure, etc all to keep people out. People who, if allowed in, would buy goods and services, pay taxes, and get jobs. The amount we spend just to find and keep out the relatively small handful of people who are capable of traveling across the world but also incapable of getting a job is far, far more than the amount it would cost society to just let those people in.
Why do you think border enforcement is expensive? Because so many people would cross (also war protection… so it’s already established infrastructure actually) that it’s a necessity. Or you know an army covertly moves in with arms since you foolishly had open borders and take over your entire country. Think past your nose.
I don’t think you realize how small a lot of European countries are, you could cross multiple in one day of travel. And why do you think so few people try? Because of the consequences.
People die even trying to flee their country, and you want to say only a handful are capable?
Yeesh give that empty head of yours a shake bud.
YES. AND THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD GET JOBS AND PAY TAXES AND GROW THE ECONOMY. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY WELL STUDIED AND UNDERSTOOD PHENOMENON.
PEOPLE CROSS VIA THE MEDITERRANEAN BECAUSE OTHER ROUTES ARE BLOCKED OFF TO THEM AND THE EU LITERALLY REFUSES TO SAVE BOATS IN DISTRESS.
SO IS PEOPLE COMING IN AND FORCEFULLY TAKING OVER YOUR COUNTRY, THE BORDERS ARE ALREADY THERE FOR THAT. IT CAUSES BOTH, YOU CANT BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND IGNORE THE REST LMFAO
WHY DID YOU IGNORE THE MAIN POINT AND THE ONE DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR POINT……? THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE AND MUST STAY THERE TO PROTECT FROM ITHER GOVERNMENTS, ITS A TRIVIAL COST FROM THERE TO SUPPORT OTHER MEASURES, ITS CALLED FUCKING EFFICIENCY YOU KOOK.
And no, they did try to save the boat in distress, they always do. You keep looking at this with biased glasses, if you can’t discuss this in good faith get fucking lost. Theres already enough trolls here.
This is right wing fear mongering. People have been migrating around the world since the dawn of human history and they still do that, it’s just that modern countries add a bunch of violence to the process.
Because your main point comically ignored what I said in the previous comment, so I restated it for you. Your main point is also incoherent and wrong, for the reasons I specified.
The Maginot Line did not serve as a border checkpoint for immigrants into France, and the Border Patrol would not do much to stop the Mexican Army. Immigration and defense are two totally different things that you’re conflating because you think that normal people moving to get a better job is equivalent to an army invading, which it’s just not.
You are literally delusional and typing things that do not make sense. You need to get a fucking grip. Immigrants are not invaders, immigration is good for the economy, money spent on keeping immigrants out is money wasted on literally making the economy worse than it could otherwise be.
The only people for whom immigration controls make sense are 1) people who own businesses with a lot of undocumented immigrants working in them, because they can use the threat of deportation to force their workers to accept extremely low wages, and 2) international corporations who need laborers to stay in poor countries so that they will be forced to work in sweatshops for little compensation. And since those groups are bourgeois and the bourgeoisie control our governments, the border controls stay.