What I’m saying is that Hillary had a lot of problems, but not being progressive enough is not one of them. Likewise, Joe Biden’s problem is that he mislead us all about how fit he really is for the job, not that he’s too moderate. If Biden showed up for the debate last week, we wouldn’t be in this national conversation.
Candidates need to be pragmatic to win national elections. Bernie had the right touch of knowing when to push the progressive narrative and when to lay off it, so he didn’t piss off the Muggles. A lot of the other Progressive darlings don’t, so they’ll never get enough votes in enough states to matter without some people harassing them for going too far to the right .
I think it’s essential that Trump is defeated, which is why I think it’s critical that we don’t let a progressive candidate anywhere near this election, because they are not as broadly popular as you think they are.
The difference is I’m talking about campaigns and you’re talking about actual governance…
I thought the only thing that mattered is beating trump?
In that case, someone that just portrays themselves as progressive is better. Not as good as a real progressive, but still better than a moderate at getting elected.
But still, more progress happened between 08-16 than 16-24…
That’s not exactly a unique take, do you disagree with it or just trying to ignore it?
What I’m saying is that Hillary had a lot of problems, but not being progressive enough is not one of them. Likewise, Joe Biden’s problem is that he mislead us all about how fit he really is for the job, not that he’s too moderate. If Biden showed up for the debate last week, we wouldn’t be in this national conversation.
Candidates need to be pragmatic to win national elections. Bernie had the right touch of knowing when to push the progressive narrative and when to lay off it, so he didn’t piss off the Muggles. A lot of the other Progressive darlings don’t, so they’ll never get enough votes in enough states to matter without some people harassing them for going too far to the right .
If you want to sum it up, I suggest his 37% approval rating.
Lots of factors are playing into that, and the last time we ran a Dem incumbent with that bad of numbers was Jimmy Carter…
How much have you heard about that election?
Why are you willing to risk trump for such an unpopular candidate that Dem voters don’t even want?
I think it’s essential that Trump is defeated, which is why I think it’s critical that we don’t let a progressive candidate anywhere near this election, because they are not as broadly popular as you think they are.
So you think Obama performed worse than Biden and Hillary?
And you don’t think Biden’s 37% approval rating should be a concern?
You’re certainly entitled to your opinions, but it doesn’t mean they’re true.
Wait, Obama is progressive now? The DrOnE StRiKe guy? I think you have a selective memory.
The difference is I’m talking about campaigns and you’re talking about actual governance…
I thought the only thing that mattered is beating trump?
In that case, someone that just portrays themselves as progressive is better. Not as good as a real progressive, but still better than a moderate at getting elected.
But still, more progress happened between 08-16 than 16-24…
That’s not exactly a unique take, do you disagree with it or just trying to ignore it?