President Joe Biden faces a rebellion from wealthy Democratic donors after his debate performance against Donald Trump.

Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.

“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”

  • upto60percentoff
    20•3 months ago

    You think Biden is a legitimately good candidate and not just worth rallying behind to stop Trump?

      • upto60percentoff
        24•3 months ago

        That’s literally “making the best of a bad system”

        You don’t like the choice you’re making, but you’re picking what you perceive as the “least bad”.

          • upto60percentoff
            13•3 months ago

            You think the US’s implementation of democracy that forces you to pick the least bad between two candidates you don’t like is

            • A good system
            • The only implementation of a democracy

            ?

            And that’s without getting started on the electoral college.

              • @[email protected]English
                11•3 months ago

                You know there are other forms of democracy right? This isn’t the only way to select an executive, and many of those systems aren’t about choosing the least bad option.

                  • @[email protected]English
                    12•3 months ago

                    Parliamentary systems. Ranked choice or approval voting. These two candidates don’t actually hold majority support, they’re just the end result of filtering and internal politics in a FPTP system that needs to have two parties.

              • upto60percentoff
                9•3 months ago

                What parts of the system that make it bad are anti-democratic elements - which are not particularly relevant in whether my choice should be Biden or Trump.

                Or in other words, the system you’re in is flawed but you’re working within the constraints of those flaws to get the best outcome you can find.

                Making the best of a bad system

                The US is only in this predicament because the system it has currently allowed a candidate who lost the popular vote in 2016 to get into an office that had enough power to meaningfully damage the country.

                However it’s clear from your repeated and deliberate attempts to reframe criticism of that system as an attack on the very concept of democracy itself that you aren’t arguing in good faith here.

                  • upto60percentoff
                    8•3 months ago

                    If you ignore the fact that trump wouldn’t be running if he hadn’t lost the popular vote in 2016 and still won, sure.

                    This started as you deriding the US’s system as an oligarchy, but now when pressed it’s your ideal democracy? What are you doing, friend? Are you okay?