• Kalkaline
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    Biden already has those codes. If I look at where we started with Trump and where we ended up, and then where Biden picked up and where we ended up, my choice clearly becomes Biden. Trump went from “grab em by the pussy” to Covid to breaking a bunch of laws to an insurrection. Biden cleaned up Trump’s mess and avoided a complete imminent global financial collapse. All things considered, I’d rather see Biden over Trump and it’s too late to try to swap out Biden.

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      But have you considered that he didn’t change military policy on Isreal?

      That should be the one and only issue you base your vote on, according to a scary amount of people around here.

      Edit: See? Here they are, saying Trump and Biden are the same. It’s kinda wild to watch.

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        Different people have different priorities. I live in eastern EU. The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me. I obviously can’t vote in the US election, but I will happily support Biden from across the pond due to that one issue.

        To a Palestinian? Yeah, I understand they don’t really care about anything outside the direct issues affecting their people so they’d be anti-Biden.

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          92 months ago

          I get why they don’t like Biden. But Trump has openly said that Israel should escalate the attacks and finish off the Palestinians.

          Biden is ignoring genocide. Trump is actively encouraging it.

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          82 months ago

          I live in Norway and feel the same way. However I will point out that trump is pro Israel and doesn’t like Muslims. He even wanted to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

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            He did move the embassy to Jerusalem. It probably helped escalate the tensions that led to the attack and then war.

            It makes me skeptical that much of the anti-Biden rhetoric around Israel/Palestine is either IDF/Russian/Iranian trolls or just terminally online edgelords who haven’t got a clue about the realities of a US election. Namely that letting Biden lose will be much worse for everyone, Palestinians especially.

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          52 months ago

          I didn’t realize .ml was populated by so many Palestinians! You’d think they’d have more pressing things to do than post snark on Lemmy.

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          12 months ago

          The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me.

          Only it seems that support for Ukraine is slowly drying out anyway. So whether electing Biden will help that is questionable.

          One can’t blame them for not trusting anything signed by Russia, though. But maybe they should have conceded on some of the occupied territories, when Russia wasn’t demanding anything they didn’t hold, which is as close to “begging for peace” as you can expect from an adversary 3 times stronger.

          Dunno, I think no matter what the outcome of that election, for Ukraine it’d be best to sign some treaty by September. Same for Armenia, only unless somebody forces Aliyev, it may not get such an opportunity.

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        102 months ago

        If Biden is okay with murdering Palestinians, what makes you think he’d care about murdering you?

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                62 months ago

                I woke up from liberalism in 2016 after the corporate media, which had already lied about the Iraq War and the Vietnam War and plenty of other pretty important things, reassured me that Trump could never win the election. I returned to the USA (big mistake) after living for years in a country with universal health care, and found myself surrounded by liberals who insisted that universal health care is evil and terrible and impossible, though I had used it hundreds of times and thought it was amazing, and was horrified by the possibility that my family would be bankrupted if one of us got into a car accident (for instance). I began to wonder if I was on the right team. I started reading Marxist theory and history, and here I am, asking for someone to explain, using specific policy examples, how the Blue Cheetoh is different from the red one.

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            42 months ago

            If I were you, I would simply not support genocide. It’s really quite easy! It’s much harder to rationalize it and tell jokes that would have been considered antiquated decades ago!

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          Did we ever get that comprehensive justice system reform after the George floydd protests?

          If not… maybe the protests didn’t go far enough? Go further.

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          22 months ago

          Oh, well, you fucking mouth-breathing moron, here’s how: Biden personally told me he likes murdering Palestinians more than me last week at a charity function. We were having manhattans and those little cocktail weenies.

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            32 months ago

            Ableist insults generally signify nazism. It’s no surprise coming from a biden/trump supporter.

    • Fubber Nuckin'
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      72 months ago

      It’s not too late to swap out Biden, but i agree with everything else you said.

      • GladiusB
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        72 months ago

        It is too late to swap out Biden. It’s too late to try this with anyone else.

        • Fubber Nuckin'
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          42 months ago

          Ok, would you care to explain to me why? The way i see it, Biden is and always has been “not Trump”. If you put another person who isn’t trump but is also not a terrible unpopular candidate they would probably get a lot more votes.

          People keep saying it’s too late without giving any proof. Saying that shit is going to MAKE IT too late. Postponing it any is going to make things harder. It’s something that unanimously has to happen right now if we want any chance at not falling to fascism.

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          22 months ago

          It is too late to swap out Biden. It’s too late to try this with anyone else.

          I’m slowly coming around to a Harris ticket. That memo that’s been circulating lays out a pretty compelling case.

          • Fubber Nuckin'
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            12 months ago

            I’m beginning to think the people down voting us are bots. Completely unreasonable negative response for a pretty reasonable opinion.

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              12 months ago

              Keyword being “opinion”. And worded specifically to indicate “I’m not sold and very open to other perspectives”.

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      32 months ago

      I’m not sure it makes sense to talk of them as of separate figures. The US state policy, internal and foreign, under both is eerily similar and continuous, with Trump it looked like “dumpster fire of the day”, with Biden (and Obama before Trump) it looked like “another careful calculated decision”, but they are all in the same general direction.

      Biden cleaned up Trump’s mess and avoided a complete imminent global financial collapse.

      Was it really Biden, though? Global economy is self-organizing and kinda reliable, like the Internet (by design, not by its real topology and those big underwater cables with no backup connecting whole continents).

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        no backup connecting whole continents

        Wtf are you talking about, there are dozens of them, its literally a huge network of cables.

        Theres a whole website about it

        Also, global economy is highly fragile, it can take one major investment bubble like in 2008 or event like Covid in 2020 to shake its foundations. Countries all over the world have to pump shitloads of money into it to keep the economy in a state where it won‘t collapse.

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          22 months ago

          Wtf are you talking about, there are dozens of them, its literally a huge network of cables.

          There are places connected by only one or two and there are issues with load in case a lucky combination of those gets sabotaged etc.