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    I’m from the UK, my wife is from Singapore, and our son was born in the US. I really don’t think it’s appropriate to force him to pledge allegiance to the US, because he has strong ties to other countries. It feels like brainwashing.

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      835 months ago

      It is brain washing.

      Where I’m from children sing the national anthem once a week at the school assembly and usually a few other songs too.

      There are typically no flags.

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              Well we defeated that ideology! And then wrapped it in red white and blue and made it our own! so take that!

              please help us

              maybe you guys can invade us this time?

              also, it was kinda the russians more than us…

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                45 months ago

                Not russians, soviet people. Well, russians too, but also ukrainians, belarusians/belorussians, armenians, georgians, long list of other nationalities that now their own states and even longer list of nationalities without one.

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          15 months ago

          This is one if even two a year episodes of listening to anthem less, but if even once a year more singing than Russia. Kinda better, but not that much in this regard.

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        45 months ago

        Singing once a week vs listening twice a year like in Russia. Please fix. Don’t be worse than Russia.

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          It raises my heckles and annoys the shit out of me. It’s not the hill I’ll die on though.

          It’s also a dreadful dirge, which in recent years has been “jazzed up” and now it is even more grating to he ears, as well as nationalist B/S.

          It’s also sung indigenous language version first then English which riles up the racists so it has it’s upsides.

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            Your anthem is a dreadful dirge you say, is it also a bloody war chant too?

            Because ours, in the first part that everybody knows, has enemy soldiers slitting the throat of our spouse and children as we hold them, and us taking arms so our fields are watered with impure blood. Then, many more verses about foreigners coming to enslave us and the need to fight to the death.

            Also a nice, hopeful late addition in which our children have to vow over our crumbled remains that they will avenge our deaths or follow us in the tomb.

            At least they don’t require that kids sing it in school though.

      • TooManyFoods
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        165 months ago

        I’m sure it will be over turned soon. Precident and clear readings of the US constitution don’t matter much nowadays.

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        165 months ago

        They can’t force you, but teachers can decide that your behaviour in class is uncooperative and your answers are bad, so you should get bad grades. Teachers can decide that when you report you have been beaten up by the Nazi gang in school that you are probably making it up as you are always looking for attention and making yourself be special.

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        75 months ago

        When I was in school the pledge was always preceded by the statement “we live in a nation of freedom, participation in the pledge of voluntary. Those who wish to participate please stand, other may remain seated and quiet”

        I remember when it first dawned on me how creepy the pledge is I began to sit and one teacher was like “what are you doing? You have to stand up!” so I explained that it seems creepy, and quoted the statement they always precede the pledge by and the teacher replied “oh I never thought about that” and left me alone from then on on the subject