• GoddessNoAi
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      9 months ago

      Women’s sports are divided out so they can compete equally.

      This isn’t true at all. Women’s leagues were created because men refused to let women play in the leagues that were already created. That’s literally all there was to it.

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          When did that occur and in what sport? That seems like an interesting event in sports history, I would be interested to read about it.

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              I meant when and in what sport “a woman embarrassed a man by winning” leading to gender segregation of the sport. Olympic shotgun skeet seems like an example, but that’s a pretty esoteric “sport,” so using that as an example to generalize about sports more broadly seems poorly conceived.

              As I noted below, most major sports leagues in the US don’t have and, with the exception of baseball (which wasn’t because “a woman embarrassed a man by winning,” it was just basic sexism/patriarchy), never had rules about gender segregation. Women have always been eligible to play in the NBA, NHL, NFL, etc.

              Are you talking about a specific country or something?

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        The NFL has no gender-specific eligibility requirements. Anyone good enough to play NFL-level football can play.

        The NHL is the same.

        The NBA is the same, and women have been invited to training camps in the past, but none were able to perform well enough at the game to play in the NBA.

        Women were banned from the MLB in 1952, but that was overturned in the 1990s, but no woman has been able to perform well enough to play in the MLB. Melissa Mayeux did make the international registration list for the MLB though, making her eligible to sign with an MLB team.

        There are sports where women can be generally equal to men in performance (ultramarathon running) or generally better than men (target shooting), but they are less popular and less lucrative sports.

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      No sane person has a problem with ensuring that womens sports contains biological women throughout

      Au contraire. Because of HRT, a trans woman would generally have less testosterone than a cis woman. Some of the top-performing cis female athletes would be disqualified by rules based on hiring hormone levels. And puberty-related changes that would prove advantageous can be avoided with puberty -blockers until fully transitioning as an adult with full HRT. And even then the trans female adolescent is at a hormonal disadvantage during that age range.

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              Yeah the sealion is definitely barking, here’s the same person in another comment:

              I’ve had my niece say she was bullied in school for not wanting to claim she was bisexual or something - and this is in a pretty deep-red area. I’m sorry, but 50% of the population being LGBT is not anywhere close to reality, and is a pretty good sign that these kids are being indoctrinated. I understand the need to be understanding for people who are this way, but the ‘inclusion’ needle swung so far the other direction that it’s now convincing children that they are gay/bi/trans when they aren’t. Additionally, I’ve raised my children to take advantage of this and claim they are even if they aren’t - for the purposes of scholarships and other benefits; since being in one of these minorities will see you with better acceptance into college https://sh.itjust.works/comment/12746064