nah. you can try to put words in my mouth, but that’s a no go with me. how many protesters has biden deported, like trump promises to do? spoiler alert: zero. and that says nothing about what actions trump will actually take to reinforce israel’s position
look, everyone knows what you’re trying to do, but you’re not getting anywhere. your solutions of either vote 3rd party, or don’t vote, or vote for trump, are mind-bogglingly stupid and indefensible. everyone’s absolute top priority for the next 3 months should be keeping trump out of the white house. your motive for trying to undermine that doesn’t matter, but you really need to come up with better arguments
Imagine someone blows up everyone you’ve ever met in your entire life. Do they really seem like a saint if they don’t deport teenagers who mention it in a land you’ll never go to? Speaking of which, do you seriously think trump will have the military deport us citizens for protesting biden’s slaughter of Palestinians? What kind of a mixed up reality have they blended your brain into accepting as “obvious” fact?
It is incredible how they trick people into caring about the absolute stupidest things instead of actual issues. It’s like watching a 5yr olds birthday magician convince a bunch of kids that the dove is actually a literal scarf now.
I never said that. This thing you people have where you can only see 2 options of absolutely love one side and absolutely hate the other or do vice versa, it’s ridiculous and it is seriously scary how predictable and unthought-out it is. You don’t have to be black or white. There is room for color and nuance to perspectives. You don’t always have to be a good little follower. Think for yourself. Say what you believe. Parroting your teams speaking points is painfully obvious and predictable.
You demand people think for themselves and don’t agree with their outcome. People have thought of the arguments you make and they’re not convincing. Telling people to “not be a good little follower” when following Biden is the most reasonable outcome given the circumstances is silly given the alternatives involve either voting against your best interests directly or drastically changing the way elections are determined which isn’t going to happen 4 months before the election. Give it a rest.
Jeesh, that timing really couldn’t have been better. You say there’s no way for the ship to turn and then almost immediately biden let’s go of the wheel, yells swerve, and dives into the deep blue. Guess what, the ship is changing course 4 months before the election.
Yeah, it’s a terrible direction. I don’t see a viable path forward for Democrats now. Biden caved to pressure from fear mongers and a Trump win is looking pretty good. If I took your advice I could vote 3rd party and enjoy my smugness while I watch a new fascist regime take hold.
Or you could have spoken your honest mind months ago, and if enough people had done the same, then we could have gotten someone younger than 80 in there long ago. The thing is, so many people mindlessly worshiped biden as a superhero because he wore a blue tie, and that’s what pushed him so far along. Honest discourse - get used to it, it helps.
Yeah, see there you go assuming I wasn’t one of those people. I was and still am, but I’m also reasonable. Nothing changes if Joe drops now or 3 months ago - the incumbency advantage is lost and the next available candidates look… Not great. The only difference is that Trump would have more time to attack the opposition. The tradeoff is that doing it now means we have to trust the DNC to run a short campaign effectively, but we’ve seen that they can’t run a long campaign effectively, so it doesn’t really matter. If you’re in the, “no to fascism” vote crowd, the DNC could put up a turnip and it would get my vote.
I’m so curious what they will tell you to think now that Biden himself agrees with me. Even biden thinks biden shouldn’t be president. What lovely timing for our little conversation here. Have they already told you what your new opinion that you totally thought of yourself is?
Who is supposed to do that? When do I get my sheeple call? Instead of listening to them I should totally listen to a free thinker such as yourself - then I’d be such an independent thinker 🙄
The time is now. The place is here. You will soon be going on and on about how you totally think Harris is such a wonderful candidate, and it’s so good that biden stepped down because she is so amazing. Start!
Nah fam. I know you think you’re some oracle that can see how things go, but I can safely say if I ever thought Harris was viable I would gladly bang the drum for her and say, “well at least Harris can win” but quite frankly she has a snowball’s chance in hell. I’m voting against fascism this election no matter who it is, but I’m certainly not voting for anyone in particular. That was the same with Biden. Nothing has really changed since I’m capable of making rational decisions. The calculus is the same - vote against fascism. Just looks a whole lot bleaker now.
nah. you can try to put words in my mouth, but that’s a no go with me. how many protesters has biden deported, like trump promises to do? spoiler alert: zero. and that says nothing about what actions trump will actually take to reinforce israel’s position
look, everyone knows what you’re trying to do, but you’re not getting anywhere. your solutions of either vote 3rd party, or don’t vote, or vote for trump, are mind-bogglingly stupid and indefensible. everyone’s absolute top priority for the next 3 months should be keeping trump out of the white house. your motive for trying to undermine that doesn’t matter, but you really need to come up with better arguments
Imagine someone blows up everyone you’ve ever met in your entire life. Do they really seem like a saint if they don’t deport teenagers who mention it in a land you’ll never go to? Speaking of which, do you seriously think trump will have the military deport us citizens for protesting biden’s slaughter of Palestinians? What kind of a mixed up reality have they blended your brain into accepting as “obvious” fact?
It is incredible how they trick people into caring about the absolute stupidest things instead of actual issues. It’s like watching a 5yr olds birthday magician convince a bunch of kids that the dove is actually a literal scarf now.
you’re trying to defend the notion that a Biden win is the worst possible outcome. there are no words to describe how moronic and wrong that is
I never said that. This thing you people have where you can only see 2 options of absolutely love one side and absolutely hate the other or do vice versa, it’s ridiculous and it is seriously scary how predictable and unthought-out it is. You don’t have to be black or white. There is room for color and nuance to perspectives. You don’t always have to be a good little follower. Think for yourself. Say what you believe. Parroting your teams speaking points is painfully obvious and predictable.
You demand people think for themselves and don’t agree with their outcome. People have thought of the arguments you make and they’re not convincing. Telling people to “not be a good little follower” when following Biden is the most reasonable outcome given the circumstances is silly given the alternatives involve either voting against your best interests directly or drastically changing the way elections are determined which isn’t going to happen 4 months before the election. Give it a rest.
Jeesh, that timing really couldn’t have been better. You say there’s no way for the ship to turn and then almost immediately biden let’s go of the wheel, yells swerve, and dives into the deep blue. Guess what, the ship is changing course 4 months before the election.
Yeah, it’s a terrible direction. I don’t see a viable path forward for Democrats now. Biden caved to pressure from fear mongers and a Trump win is looking pretty good. If I took your advice I could vote 3rd party and enjoy my smugness while I watch a new fascist regime take hold.
Or you could have spoken your honest mind months ago, and if enough people had done the same, then we could have gotten someone younger than 80 in there long ago. The thing is, so many people mindlessly worshiped biden as a superhero because he wore a blue tie, and that’s what pushed him so far along. Honest discourse - get used to it, it helps.
Yeah, see there you go assuming I wasn’t one of those people. I was and still am, but I’m also reasonable. Nothing changes if Joe drops now or 3 months ago - the incumbency advantage is lost and the next available candidates look… Not great. The only difference is that Trump would have more time to attack the opposition. The tradeoff is that doing it now means we have to trust the DNC to run a short campaign effectively, but we’ve seen that they can’t run a long campaign effectively, so it doesn’t really matter. If you’re in the, “no to fascism” vote crowd, the DNC could put up a turnip and it would get my vote.
I’m so curious what they will tell you to think now that Biden himself agrees with me. Even biden thinks biden shouldn’t be president. What lovely timing for our little conversation here. Have they already told you what your new opinion that you totally thought of yourself is?
Who is supposed to do that? When do I get my sheeple call? Instead of listening to them I should totally listen to a free thinker such as yourself - then I’d be such an independent thinker 🙄
The time is now. The place is here. You will soon be going on and on about how you totally think Harris is such a wonderful candidate, and it’s so good that biden stepped down because she is so amazing. Start!
Nah fam. I know you think you’re some oracle that can see how things go, but I can safely say if I ever thought Harris was viable I would gladly bang the drum for her and say, “well at least Harris can win” but quite frankly she has a snowball’s chance in hell. I’m voting against fascism this election no matter who it is, but I’m certainly not voting for anyone in particular. That was the same with Biden. Nothing has really changed since I’m capable of making rational decisions. The calculus is the same - vote against fascism. Just looks a whole lot bleaker now.