I would disagree. When the right (known liars like Boebert, Trump, Logan Paul, etc) continuously lie about anything to try to rile up their base, I say it’s imperative to completely disregard their opinions unless someone trusted is making the accusations. This is what they expect, this is exactly what they want. We need to ignore them. Not even bring it up. Keep them fringe and outcast them as weirdos. They bring nothing good to the table but lies, hatred, and divisiveness.
I would disagree. As another poster pointed out, there are serious questions about the integrity of the IBA, not least the fact that they aren’t recognised by the IOC. To suggest that the IOC wouldn’t have clear eligibility criteria feels at best misguided.
The ‘accusation’ is that Imane Khelif is a ‘biological male’, which is absolutely some bullshit she just made up. Maybe there’s an argument to be had around testosterone levels in female athletes (although again, the allegation that Khelif has higher than average levels has not actually been corroborated) but I personally don’t think so, and I don’t think this is an example that necessitates that conversation.
But it didn’t. She was disqualified from the competition, it wasn’t clearly stated why. And as previously mentioned, there are huge questions of trustworthiness regarding that organisation. I also have my doubts that Lauren Boebert has any awareness of previous allegations, but suspect she has just jumped on an assumption as many online seem to have done.
The president of the IBA (Umar Kremlev) is a Russian in a position of privilege, a position that is easily influence by Putin’s agenda (who hate anything pro LGBTQ+). I would argue, with plenty of facts to back it up, that the IBA is compromised and is unable to have a neutral stance on this matter.
Under Kremlev’s tenure as IBA head, he has heavily marketed himself, moved the IBA’s operations to Russia, suspended Ukraine from the IBA, and made the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom the sole sponsor of the IBA… The IOC stated that the IBA had failed to address governance, finance and corruption concerns.
It’s a little complicated. The Italian boxer who faced Imane in the last match said she “had never been punched that hard before” and had to resign in the first minute.
There’s no proof of an Y chromosome, the test Imane failed was just for testosterone (which might be natural). I’m not a doctor, but couldn’t that just be from doping or something? She’s from Algeria, which has only won like 17 Olympic medals total, which could encourage cheating. It would explain her punches being stronger.
They’re being “mean” because you’re jumping to assumptions that a brown woman is cheating because she was very good at a sport, and all your comments are laced with transphobic undertones. There is zero evidence to suggest Imane Khelif cheated, but you keep acting like there is.
How many people have had to surrender within a minute (not a knockout or pin)?
A lot, actually. It’s a violent sport, it happens all the time. Ronda Rousey famously had a match called in under a minute by a ref because she was so seriously outmatched, it doesn’t mean her opponent was cheating or trans.
Didn’t at least one person say the same thing about Mike Tyson?
Being better than everyone else might mean cheating, but it also might mean they are just better. No way for us plebs on the ground to know. It sounds like the IBC has not fostered enough trust to be taken at their word.
That being the case, it seems reasonable to take Imane’s word for it until the matter can be settled by a trustworthy body.
Why does matter? She’s not transgender in any way, making Boeberts claims false.
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I would disagree. When the right (known liars like Boebert, Trump, Logan Paul, etc) continuously lie about anything to try to rile up their base, I say it’s imperative to completely disregard their opinions unless someone trusted is making the accusations. This is what they expect, this is exactly what they want. We need to ignore them. Not even bring it up. Keep them fringe and outcast them as weirdos. They bring nothing good to the table but lies, hatred, and divisiveness.
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I would disagree. As another poster pointed out, there are serious questions about the integrity of the IBA, not least the fact that they aren’t recognised by the IOC. To suggest that the IOC wouldn’t have clear eligibility criteria feels at best misguided.
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The ‘accusation’ is that Imane Khelif is a ‘biological male’, which is absolutely some bullshit she just made up. Maybe there’s an argument to be had around testosterone levels in female athletes (although again, the allegation that Khelif has higher than average levels has not actually been corroborated) but I personally don’t think so, and I don’t think this is an example that necessitates that conversation.
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But it didn’t. She was disqualified from the competition, it wasn’t clearly stated why. And as previously mentioned, there are huge questions of trustworthiness regarding that organisation. I also have my doubts that Lauren Boebert has any awareness of previous allegations, but suspect she has just jumped on an assumption as many online seem to have done.
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You mean the boxing federation filled corruption and that was disqualified by the Olympics?
The president of the IBA (Umar Kremlev) is a Russian in a position of privilege, a position that is easily influence by Putin’s agenda (who hate anything pro LGBTQ+). I would argue, with plenty of facts to back it up, that the IBA is compromised and is unable to have a neutral stance on this matter.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Kremlev
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It’s a little complicated. The Italian boxer who faced Imane in the last match said she “had never been punched that hard before” and had to resign in the first minute.
There’s no proof of an Y chromosome, the test Imane failed was just for testosterone (which might be natural). I’m not a doctor, but couldn’t that just be from doping or something? She’s from Algeria, which has only won like 17 Olympic medals total, which could encourage cheating. It would explain her punches being stronger.
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I don’t know why you’re being mean. I’m not misgendering anyone. How many people have had to surrender within a minute (not a knockout or pin)?
They’re being “mean” because you’re jumping to assumptions that a brown woman is cheating because she was very good at a sport, and all your comments are laced with transphobic undertones. There is zero evidence to suggest Imane Khelif cheated, but you keep acting like there is.
A lot, actually. It’s a violent sport, it happens all the time. Ronda Rousey famously had a match called in under a minute by a ref because she was so seriously outmatched, it doesn’t mean her opponent was cheating or trans.
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Didn’t at least one person say the same thing about Mike Tyson?
Being better than everyone else might mean cheating, but it also might mean they are just better. No way for us plebs on the ground to know. It sounds like the IBC has not fostered enough trust to be taken at their word.
That being the case, it seems reasonable to take Imane’s word for it until the matter can be settled by a trustworthy body.
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There is nothing complex about it.