Fair enough. But why not handle these exceptions in the rules then? If they don’t confer a major competitive advantage then let them compete as the sex they feel like.
But I don’t think we can draw this out to a full blown man who identifies as a woman so gets to compete against women. As usual, there is a sensible middle ground, and you have to get into the weeds a bit to sort it out.
Its like people who say only “pure capitalism” or “pure communism” is the best system, when in fact they are both garbage options, and the best is actually capitalism constrained by socialist policies like in Scandinavia. Yes, it’s messy and complicated and hard to figure out, but that’s pretty much always the case for coming to the best result.
The extremes on either side are almost always wrong.
Anyone who fails the tests for the other cases you list. The governing body of the sport gets to decide, and tests are decided by scientists and doctors.
For the same reason anyone wants to know anything. Because if anyone is to have an informed conversation about this, we need to know how they come to their conclusions. Their lack of transparency is a large part of why this controversy exists in the first place.
Fair enough. But why not handle these exceptions in the rules then? If they don’t confer a major competitive advantage then let them compete as the sex they feel like.
But I don’t think we can draw this out to a full blown man who identifies as a woman so gets to compete against women. As usual, there is a sensible middle ground, and you have to get into the weeds a bit to sort it out.
Its like people who say only “pure capitalism” or “pure communism” is the best system, when in fact they are both garbage options, and the best is actually capitalism constrained by socialist policies like in Scandinavia. Yes, it’s messy and complicated and hard to figure out, but that’s pretty much always the case for coming to the best result.
The extremes on either side are almost always wrong.
What is a “full blown man” in your definition based on what I pasted above?
Also, who gets to decide that and what is the test?
Anyone who fails the tests for the other cases you list. The governing body of the sport gets to decide, and tests are decided by scientists and doctors.
The governing sport body in this case being the IOC. Who did decide. You just don’t seem to care for their decision.
So make up your mind.
When did I say I didn’t like their decision? I said I wanted more information.
Why? They decided she qualified. That should be enough.
For the same reason anyone wants to know anything. Because if anyone is to have an informed conversation about this, we need to know how they come to their conclusions. Their lack of transparency is a large part of why this controversy exists in the first place.
It’s none of your business what’s between their legs or in their chromosomes. This wouldn’t even be a question for anyone who wasn’t an athlete.
Yes because outside of athletics it doesn’t really matter.