Ok. I see no reason to continue this discussion if you’re just going to ignore the point I’m making. One last time: the system can’t be “corrected”, there will always be errors, innocent people will die.
There can always be error. I’m not saying that there is on the two cases you keep bringing up but the sad fact is that prosecutors can withhold exonerating evidence, defense council can be next to useless, judges can be biased, defendants can have mental health issues and developmental problems and so on.
You can’t just hand wave these concerns away and advocate for executing only the people who confess and send the rest to prison for life. That distinction is too messy and open to abuse.
There’s nuance here you’re just not willing to accept, that’s why you keep bringing up the worst of the worst like that’s a persuasive argument.
There’s a sliding scale of criminality. At some point someone has to make a determination between the most egregious, who are executed, and less vicious crimes where the defendant is jailed indefinitely. The person who is making that determination cannot ever be wrong for your approach to work.
That’s my point, mistakes were and are being made because that’s what happens when you ask people to make these decisions.
You seem to be ignoring what I’m saying in favor of your own set opinion.
Go look in the mirror, you’re describing yourself, not me.
Look at the examples you keep referring to. How to you make the distinction between the two examples you mention? The law does not and changing it to accommodate a distinction between run of the mill murder and murder + icky things is ridiculous.
Ok. I see no reason to continue this discussion if you’re just going to ignore the point I’m making. One last time: the system can’t be “corrected”, there will always be errors, innocent people will die.
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There can always be error. I’m not saying that there is on the two cases you keep bringing up but the sad fact is that prosecutors can withhold exonerating evidence, defense council can be next to useless, judges can be biased, defendants can have mental health issues and developmental problems and so on.
You can’t just hand wave these concerns away and advocate for executing only the people who confess and send the rest to prison for life. That distinction is too messy and open to abuse.
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There’s nuance here you’re just not willing to accept, that’s why you keep bringing up the worst of the worst like that’s a persuasive argument.
There’s a sliding scale of criminality. At some point someone has to make a determination between the most egregious, who are executed, and less vicious crimes where the defendant is jailed indefinitely. The person who is making that determination cannot ever be wrong for your approach to work.
That’s my point, mistakes were and are being made because that’s what happens when you ask people to make these decisions.
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That’s not how the legal system works, at all.
Your slightly strange obsession with “monsters” is clouding your ability to think critically on this issue.
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Go look in the mirror, you’re describing yourself, not me.
Look at the examples you keep referring to. How to you make the distinction between the two examples you mention? The law does not and changing it to accommodate a distinction between run of the mill murder and murder + icky things is ridiculous.