Vice President Kamala Harris’ first public appearance with Tim Walz saw a large crowd in Philadelphia, while her Detroit appearance disappointed anti-war advocates
“I live in a must-win swing state, and I’m going to hold back my vote for the only candidate that won’t make things worse.”
Big picture, people. My god. See it.
Edit: I may have been confusing the people in this article with the PA group in this one. Still, Harris getting elected is the only chance of things not becoming way worse.
You know, for a lot of people, those in palestine, their families here, and muslims across the world, there isn’t a difference between the current administrations policy and what Harris is proposing.
The big picture, you need to see it.
And like we had to tell Blue MAGA over and over again, its not the voters job to come to the politicians position. Its the politicians job to go get the voters. And if the voters position is “I’d rather not have my people genociced” or “I’d rather my ethnic minority not be considered less valuable than goats compared to other ethnic minorities”, well then, as a reasonable person, I’m sure you can understand why they and others in solidarity with them would continue to withhold their votes.
And on withholding your vote, it is quite literally the only thing that has given us a snow-balls chance at hell in actually beating Trump. Any one putting out rhetoric to the otherwise, in the form of voter shaming, any blue will do, or blue maga, is one full step down the road into fascism. They need to be named, shamed, and ignored. They worked to give us Trump by trying to vote shame an entire nation into supporting Biden, a failed candidate who by all objective metrics had never been even competitive in his 2024 bid for president.
Kamala signaled with her Walz pick up that she would do better on Israel Gaza. Its her time to show the voters she is better, and no voter’s owe her a vote either way.
Oh I agree. You clearly haven’t learned shit about how elections or voters actually work, considering that you’re setting up the same conditions that resulted in Bidens disaster of a campaign. You should just take the time to think of the material consequences this specific rhetoric had on Bidens failed campaign.
You can not shame people into voting the way you think they should. Its not a voters job to adopt the position of a candidate. Ever. Insisting that it be that way when it isn’t is sticking your head in the sand regarding reality.
Its Harris’ job to address the issues voters have with the administration and hers’ policy on Gaza. If she does not, she will not get those voters. If you see that happening and blamer it on those voters rather than the candidate, you are the problem.
I’m not shaming anyone… just stating reality. Harris or Trump will become POTUS. Nobody else running has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the election.
Now that you’re tuned in to reality… would you rather POTUS is Trump or Harris? I don’t like it and you don’t like it, but you don’t get any other choice.
No, I understand what you said but I think it just sounded like a canned response. If you reread their comment and yours then it really seems like you spring boarded off some key words and didn’t really reply to them at all. It’s not even argumentative, it’s just confusingly misplaced.
It’s not even argumentative, it’s just confusingly misplaced.
Only if you live in an ahistorical vacuum with no appreciation of nuance or context. And maybe you are coming to this conversation in that manner, so keep in mind this is a forum specifically for discussion politics, and the people having conversations here may have far more context and depth to what they are saying than you may at first notice.
“I live in a must-win swing state. If you promise to end a genocide I will 100% vote for you”
If democrats want to win the election they need to earn votes, it’s as simple as that. If all dems have to do to win elections is not be republicans they will have absolutely zero motivation shift policy and earn votes. Withholding votes is a very powerful tool to make political changes happen and berating people for doing so is ridiculous. You’re criticizing people for exercising their democratic right.
People were saying the exact same thing when Biden was running. Everyone on this website shat on the opinion that dems needed to swap out Biden. “Not voting for Biden is like voting for Trump” etc. Lo and behold, Biden drops out and there is a massive swing in momentum.
The narrative that Biden should stay in the race was literally hurting the democrats chance at winning. Despite everyone’s insistence that Biden was the best chance at beating Trump, it just wasn’t true. Why do operate under the assumption that americans want their leader to suckle Bibi’s balls? Blocking weapons transfers until a ceasefire is the right thing to do and is not going to lose democrats the election.
“I live in a must-win swing state, and I’m going to hold back my vote for the only candidate that won’t make things worse.”
Big picture, people. My god. See it.
Edit: I may have been confusing the people in this article with the PA group in this one. Still, Harris getting elected is the only chance of things not becoming way worse.
You know, for a lot of people, those in palestine, their families here, and muslims across the world, there isn’t a difference between the current administrations policy and what Harris is proposing.
The big picture, you need to see it.
And like we had to tell Blue MAGA over and over again, its not the voters job to come to the politicians position. Its the politicians job to go get the voters. And if the voters position is “I’d rather not have my people genociced” or “I’d rather my ethnic minority not be considered less valuable than goats compared to other ethnic minorities”, well then, as a reasonable person, I’m sure you can understand why they and others in solidarity with them would continue to withhold their votes.
And on withholding your vote, it is quite literally the only thing that has given us a snow-balls chance at hell in actually beating Trump. Any one putting out rhetoric to the otherwise, in the form of voter shaming, any blue will do, or blue maga, is one full step down the road into fascism. They need to be named, shamed, and ignored. They worked to give us Trump by trying to vote shame an entire nation into supporting Biden, a failed candidate who by all objective metrics had never been even competitive in his 2024 bid for president.
Kamala signaled with her Walz pick up that she would do better on Israel Gaza. Its her time to show the voters she is better, and no voter’s owe her a vote either way.
Bullshit. You can vote for Harris or you can vote for Trump. Are you REALLY going to vote for Trump and think things will get better?
Ahh this shit again. The identical rhetoric that was being used to hand Trump the election.
Not much has changed… it’s still FPTP… Nobody but Trump or Harris will pass the post… which one of the two do you want to win? Choose wisely…
Oh I agree. You clearly haven’t learned shit about how elections or voters actually work, considering that you’re setting up the same conditions that resulted in Bidens disaster of a campaign. You should just take the time to think of the material consequences this specific rhetoric had on Bidens failed campaign.
You can not shame people into voting the way you think they should. Its not a voters job to adopt the position of a candidate. Ever. Insisting that it be that way when it isn’t is sticking your head in the sand regarding reality.
Its Harris’ job to address the issues voters have with the administration and hers’ policy on Gaza. If she does not, she will not get those voters. If you see that happening and blamer it on those voters rather than the candidate, you are the problem.
I’m not shaming anyone… just stating reality. Harris or Trump will become POTUS. Nobody else running has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the election.
Now that you’re tuned in to reality… would you rather POTUS is Trump or Harris? I don’t like it and you don’t like it, but you don’t get any other choice.
You are.
You are not.
What are you feeling ashamed of? What shame do you feel I am trying to cast on you?
Who, besides Harris or Trump do you feel might get elected POTUS this election cycle?
I don’t think you really responded to the person you replied to.
Oh I am, I assure you.
No, I understand what you said but I think it just sounded like a canned response. If you reread their comment and yours then it really seems like you spring boarded off some key words and didn’t really reply to them at all. It’s not even argumentative, it’s just confusingly misplaced.
Why not just make a top level post?
No, you don’t.
Only if you live in an ahistorical vacuum with no appreciation of nuance or context. And maybe you are coming to this conversation in that manner, so keep in mind this is a forum specifically for discussion politics, and the people having conversations here may have far more context and depth to what they are saying than you may at first notice.
How is that a defense of your non sequitur post above? I don’t think digging at me is going to brute force that first comment into context.
Its not a defense because there was no non-sequiter; just you not understanding nuance and context.
I did say it made no sense? That’s what I told you.
“I live in a must-win swing state. If you promise to end a genocide I will 100% vote for you”
If democrats want to win the election they need to earn votes, it’s as simple as that. If all dems have to do to win elections is not be republicans they will have absolutely zero motivation shift policy and earn votes. Withholding votes is a very powerful tool to make political changes happen and berating people for doing so is ridiculous. You’re criticizing people for exercising their democratic right.
People were saying the exact same thing when Biden was running. Everyone on this website shat on the opinion that dems needed to swap out Biden. “Not voting for Biden is like voting for Trump” etc. Lo and behold, Biden drops out and there is a massive swing in momentum.
The narrative that Biden should stay in the race was literally hurting the democrats chance at winning. Despite everyone’s insistence that Biden was the best chance at beating Trump, it just wasn’t true. Why do operate under the assumption that americans want their leader to suckle Bibi’s balls? Blocking weapons transfers until a ceasefire is the right thing to do and is not going to lose democrats the election.