- Ukraine downed a Russian Su-34 fighter jet over Kursk amid an ongoing territorial push.
- The Su-34, worth around $36 million, is Russia’s most efficient fighter bomber with advanced tech.
- Ukraine has previously held long kill streaks with Russian Su-34s.
There is no way for Russia to rebuild all this Soviet stock and the war aint even over. How are they planning on securing their borders after the war when every country in the west hates them and China will make a play for Siberia and Far East by 2100.
You sure 2100?
If I was China I’d make a play for it by the end of the year, fuck Taiwan when you could snag all that free real-estate and precious metals Russia should have been mining instead of losing their ass in a war.
Why would China need to invade Russia when they can just buy the resources? Russia would certainly like something to cover the huge trade imbalance.
not only chinese can buy resources from russians, they can do so on wildly favourable terms. they can have all that oil and iron ore and whatever without the trouble of actually occupying siberia
it is good living space… but i digress…
China has no emotional investment in the territory so it would not undermine itself trying to capture it like Russia is doing now.
However, at this rate Russia will be very weak in the future and at point China will cross over and colonize the area which is very sparsely populated by about half of the people who really don’t give a fuck about being “Russian”
It will be on of them… do you cry when you step on the thing and our grandkids won’t blink.
6% of chinese people live in 57% of China, living space isn’t an issue at that scale.
When none of your predictions come true this time, will you do some self-reflection? Did you do any self-reflection about how you’d been convinced that hostile action against Iraq was justified? Afghanistan? Libya? The ongoing occupation of Syria? How previous and upcoming action against Iran?
Right, China has an opportunity now while Russia is desperate, and that window will be open at least a generation for Russia to rebuild and repopulate, so this could be much earlier than OP predicted
There were some talking heads some months ago saying that the Ukraine war would determine if China expands into Taiwan militarily or russia economically. No need for weapons in the second case.
So they’d become a kind of vassal state?
I could totally see that, especially if something happens to Putin.
What I saw was that North China is DRY. They need tons of water. And russia has lake Baikal nearby. These kinds of Nestlé-style tricks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlUJwbL7SM8
Imagine all the anger russians feel towards the US for not being able to magically fix their country in the 90s but now turned towards their growing and grabby neighbour.
Wait, did Russians really believe the U.S. was supposed to fix it after the collapse of the USSR?
That’s not how government works what the hell is wrong with people over there
I’m exaggerating for the sake of argument, but I’ve seen tankies and russians on youtube make this argument unironically to justify why russia had the right to do whatever it wanted to recover its empire and that they had a right to revenge for the “decade of humiliation” and shock therapy.
I don’t see anyone seriously making these arguments. What I do see is a nasty situation in Eastern Europe thanks to decades of privatization and looting of the domestic economies. There’s a reflexive anti-Americanism that suggests simply divorcing from the western economy will restore the eastern states to a more normal economic path. But Putin isn’t exactly Lenin (or even Khrushchev), so there’s no reason to believe a Russian capitalist oligarch looting the Bulgarian or Estonian economy would somehow benefit anymore more than the UK/US doing it.
For what it’s worth the west had a history of helping in these events, we did fuck all for them really when the Soviet Union broke apart.
It wasn’t our job, but it woulda gone a LONG fucking way to bettering relations.
I could see feeling bitter we didn’t help but to take it as far as blaming us for their woes is just classic “it’s their fault” mentality.
Look at Japan and Germany as examples of how it may have played out.
But Japan and Germany were occupied, the US had skin in the game, influence over russia was more hands-off.
Although funny enough that’s what we promised to do in Japan after WWII.
https://youtu.be/YzRWPGSaKDk
They did experience rapid economic growth, and did move to a democratic government, though as usual the right wing leadership took hold both here and there, and we just wanted Japan as a military base to counter those commie Russians, and they wanted to nullify the treaty preventing them from having a standing army
Don’t know about “expect”, but at the time there seemed to be popular hope that with the collapse of USSR they would get some of that sweet western prosperity. When that did not come to pass even when by all accounts the Russian government of that time was trying to lean into normalized relations with the west, then some “the west still keeps us down” narrative is unsurprising. It was in the midst of continued economic struggle that Putin came along and started reasserting a more nationalistic philosophy in Russia.
While it might not have been reasonable to expect, in retrospect it might have been in NATO’s best interest to be more proactive in helping Russia during that window where they were actually friendly. They might have managed to avert Putin’s rise to power.
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:/ huh? So, why are the russians resentful for the 90s towards the US? That’s what I am talking about, during Yeltsin post-USSR, not Gorbachov.
The coup that brought Yeltsin to power is believed to have been a plot by US intelligence services. And the post-90s break up of the USSR resulted in a pillaging of national assets through privatization, which upset a lot of people.
Everything is an american coup to some people, even when the USSR military performs a coup against the leader of the USSR 😔
Americans have a long and storied history of sponsoring coups.
Yeltsin didn’t restore Gorbachev after the coup. He took the leadership of the country for himself and dissolved the entire Communist Party. Then his governing coalition instituted a rule that effectively allowed him to impose privatization by fiat in defiance of existing laws.
This lead to the era of Russian gangster capitalism that plunged the country into a near-decade long depression, as the country was opened up to foreign industries looting the nation’s capital stocks and resource reserves for the enrichment of a handful of Yeltsin’s closest allies (most notably, a young St. Petersburg mayor named Vladimir Putin).
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No, they wouldn’t, one period was communist, the other was anarcho-capitalist 💀 none of the points you made remotely apply.
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China is expanding into both economically. That’s been the strategy for the last 50 years.
I think Russia’s plan was to enslave the Ukrainian people and force them to rebuild the russian military.
Ah, you mean Russia’s perpetual solution until Ukraine won their independence.
They can’t even make sufficient ball bearings to keep their railroad alive; they depended entirely on western imports lol
Solid propaganda but I am sure China can machine them some fucking ball bearings lol
There are shortages though.
The bearings in trains are actually pretty complicated to build. They use slanted roller bearings, not just regular old ball bearings. 10 companies in the world make like 70% of all rail bearings, and 5 of those are in Japan. Plus, only a few countries produce the two steel alloys that you make these bearings out of.
China does produce around 20% of the bearings used in trains, but pretty much all of it gets used for domestic purposes and they still have to import due to their massive rail expansion projects
Okay im ignorant on this one, why do trains use ball bearings? And is this for traditional trains or high speed?
Pretty much anything with a turning wheel and axel relies on some sort of bearing system. That means traditional and high speed rail systems both require them.
There are some differences in types of bearing depending on what you use your rail system for. In the US we utilize antiquated plain bearings that are relatively easy to manufacture, but that’s because our rolling stock is ancient compared to most countries. Mainly because we rely heavily on trucks for transporting most goods and haven’t bothered investing in our aging rail network.
In Russia they have a much more modern rolling stock, as everything they ship goes through their rail network. Their rolling stock utilizes angled/slanted roller bearings, which can vastly increase their weight capacity, speed, and can double to triple their lifespan. The only problem is that they are complicated to manufacture.
This has really peaked my interest. Are these the types of bearings you are referring to? I’d like to read more but not misinform myself. https://www.savree.com/en/encyclopedia/tapered-roller-bearing-rail
Yep, that’s a tapered/angled roller bearing. They’re conceptually a pretty easy concept, but deceptively hard to manufacture
100% this isn’t a lost technology, it “just” needs some machines built
Does Russia even have that precision machining capability?
yes, they are capable. have you ever shot an AK-47?? They are marvels of engineering. You can bury it in mud, pick it up, and shoot it with no malfunction.
dont underestimate our enemies, that puts them at an advantage.
I have. They’re so reliable because of loose tolerances, not because of precision machining. If you shake them, they rattle. (An AR-15 does too, but only because of the plastic handguards.)
right, nothing to do with the size of the gas piston lol the tolerances were not a mistake, they are intentional in order to allow it to function when dirty.
I have never shot an AR15 that didn’t have slop. Don’t get me wrong, I prefer AR, but let’s not pretend AK isnt a marvel of engineering. Even Stoner would agree, and did
!RemindMe 2100 Did China do this?
Heard they don’t know how to build the Su-34 any longer (old forgotten Soviet stuff), only service and upgrade them.
Putin us really thinking with his ass now, they haven’t lost the battle but they sure seems to have lost the war.
Ffs.
Yeah, even if it ends tomorrow (which it will not, not even close) this has totally screwed over Russia.
I mean, they have nukes, actually invading them with intent to actually conquer them or permanently take significant parts of the country would be a risky move regardless of how depleted their stocks get.
That goes both ways, at least a little. It would be risky for Russia to ever use nukes, even on their own territory. It certainly wouldn’t make the west happy, and their citizens probably don’t want to see their own villages with mushroom clouds over them.
Russia has made it painfully clear that she does not give one single fuck about her citizens. But yeah, using nukes probably wouldn’t end well for Russia at all. I agree, the US would step in at that point and things would get very messy.
The problem is the US cares about not nuking regular people at least somewhat but Russian leadership don’t care outside of themselves