Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

  • archomrade [he/him]
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    I do encourage everyone to drop all Meta platforms, but generally speaking “vote with your wallet” is ineffectual.

    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

    Edit: choosing what makes you happier is never ineffectual, but capitalism is not a democracy. You can’t “vote” out a company by choosing not to use their product, especially when that company owns many of the options or has control over the majority of the market.

    • iAmTheTot
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      There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

      Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

    • @[email protected]
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      2011 months ago

      How is voting with your wallet ineffectual?

      There’s a confirmation bias at work here. The shitty things people didn’t pay for don’t exist.

      • @[email protected]
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        A few people voting with their dollars is completely useless. You’re also talking about an international business with more users outside the US than in it, who don’t need to care about Joe Rogan.

        https://observer.case.edu/why-internet-boycotts-dont-work/

        https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/spotify-now-has-more-than-500m-users/

        That said, I don’t eat at Chick-fil-A because of their shitty politics. I understand that me not eating there isn’t creating any actual change, but I’m still not going to do it.

        People should absolutely feel free to make these changes whenever they want, but you should realize that Spotify has grown subscribers since you left and they don’t care that you did.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yes, but a useful “evil” thing will continue to exist because it is useful. The majority of people value something useful/convenient WAY more than they care about morals.

        OldPersonDiaperSeasoning.com won’t last because it’s simply awful, but Meta/Amazon just won’t seem to die no matter how many people hate it and choose to leave because it is useful.

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        111 months ago

        I understand it’s an unpopular opinion, but you don’t become the size of Meta without leveraging significant market power.

        Consumer boycotts have their place, but rarely exercise the same level of influence over a company than other methods of activism.

        Meta can easily just buy the next most popular alternative anyway (as they have repeatedly).