This shit is incredible. He used to tone it down when he wasn’t speaking directly to his base, but he came out of the gate with post birth executions. Now we’re onto Haitians eating cats and dogs, wtf?
I think that’s actually beneficial. It allows him to lie again, the moderators to fact check, and then Kamala to respond again. He looks dumb and flustered right now.
It makes him look bad to reasonable people, but it also let’s him bluster his way through more and more lies that the brainwashed fox news folk will eat up and consider it him “dominating” over Kamala. Cut the fucking mics ABC, Jesus.
The issue wasn’t that the mics were open, it’s that his wasn’t open during her responses and she would be cut off from responding to his lunatic interruptions. Still made him look bad, but true open mic debate would’ve been way worse for himz
Then the complaint is that he’s not given a chance to speak. Facts and reason didn’t get us into this mess and they won’t get us out either. At this point we have to hope for a McCarthy moment where the spell just collapses. Letting him ramble brings that closer.
Trump has been the wildcard and basically gone against every norm for someone running for office. In 2016 that was more unexpected and the electorate had a clear anti-establishment candidate they could get behind (even though he lost the popular vote).
I think the trick has worn off and we now know how to deal with his antics, plus he’s aged and less coherent. Also he was the establishment for 4 years, and can’t be the wildcard candidate he once was.
I think Vivek Ramaswamy was trying this playbook during the Republican primaries but failed to account for the cult of Trump and the racism in the party. Maybe it would have worked against someone who wasn’t a former president or if Trump was sent to prison sooner.
I honestly had to turn the thing off because I’m so sick of hearing this guy’s blatant bullshit. He doubled down on abortion rights advocates wanting to kill babies in the delivery room. What a fucking lying piece of shit.
I’ve mostly been avoiding his bullshit, at least directly, since he left office. I had to tune in here because I think this is crucial given how this campaign has played out. I truly believe if he loses here, he won’t make it to another run.
Yeah, I think I have 30m to 1h left. I started late to watch at 2x speed but I honestly think that made it more stressful. Hearing Trump’s bullshit at twice the frequency is really annoying. I can imagine how Harris felt. She’s handled it well from what I’ve seen, but does that move the needle? Is anyone who was considering Trump or abstaining really going to be bothered by the total bullshit? I hope so, but we’ll have to wait and see.
I only watched the beginning, kind of hopeless that people might think he did well. I didn’t even know kept to watch: just lie after lie, told with complete confidence, and without following any theme or logic.
At least when he repeated the thing about Haitians eating your pets: surely no one but hard core racists can agree with that, right?
This shit is incredible. He used to tone it down when he wasn’t speaking directly to his base, but he came out of the gate with post birth executions. Now we’re onto Haitians eating cats and dogs, wtf?
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I think that’s actually beneficial. It allows him to lie again, the moderators to fact check, and then Kamala to respond again. He looks dumb and flustered right now.
It makes him look bad to reasonable people, but it also let’s him bluster his way through more and more lies that the brainwashed fox news folk will eat up and consider it him “dominating” over Kamala. Cut the fucking mics ABC, Jesus.
Kamala and co purposely allowed open mics because he polled much more poorly when he whines over the open mic constantly
The issue wasn’t that the mics were open, it’s that his wasn’t open during her responses and she would be cut off from responding to his lunatic interruptions. Still made him look bad, but true open mic debate would’ve been way worse for himz
Fair enough, I suppose it’s a bit of a line.
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Then the complaint is that he’s not given a chance to speak. Facts and reason didn’t get us into this mess and they won’t get us out either. At this point we have to hope for a McCarthy moment where the spell just collapses. Letting him ramble brings that closer.
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Trump has been the wildcard and basically gone against every norm for someone running for office. In 2016 that was more unexpected and the electorate had a clear anti-establishment candidate they could get behind (even though he lost the popular vote).
I think the trick has worn off and we now know how to deal with his antics, plus he’s aged and less coherent. Also he was the establishment for 4 years, and can’t be the wildcard candidate he once was.
I think Vivek Ramaswamy was trying this playbook during the Republican primaries but failed to account for the cult of Trump and the racism in the party. Maybe it would have worked against someone who wasn’t a former president or if Trump was sent to prison sooner.
Don’t forget transgender surgery on illegal immigrants. He can’t even keep his strawmen straight.
Yeah, if our country was just handing out gender affirming care, the trans community here wouldn’t be in such turmoil.
I honestly had to turn the thing off because I’m so sick of hearing this guy’s blatant bullshit. He doubled down on abortion rights advocates wanting to kill babies in the delivery room. What a fucking lying piece of shit.
I hope we can make this guy go the fuck away.
I’ve mostly been avoiding his bullshit, at least directly, since he left office. I had to tune in here because I think this is crucial given how this campaign has played out. I truly believe if he loses here, he won’t make it to another run.
You can’t just believe it. People need to actually vote accordingly.
Yeah, I think I have 30m to 1h left. I started late to watch at 2x speed but I honestly think that made it more stressful. Hearing Trump’s bullshit at twice the frequency is really annoying. I can imagine how Harris felt. She’s handled it well from what I’ve seen, but does that move the needle? Is anyone who was considering Trump or abstaining really going to be bothered by the total bullshit? I hope so, but we’ll have to wait and see.
I’m just glad to see she can handle being near a stressful moron and keep her rhythm regardless of what vile nonsense was getting regurgitated.
He’s scared and doesn’t have anything left to lean on. The hardcore didn’t care what he said anyway, they were gonna vote him anywah
When neither magas nor Republicans have any policy positions… all you have left is culture-war lies and bullshit.
You forgot projection and name-calling. Probably a few more. Tuned out after Kamala triggered him. Can’t stand to listen to his insanity.
I only watched the beginning, kind of hopeless that people might think he did well. I didn’t even know kept to watch: just lie after lie, told with complete confidence, and without following any theme or logic.
At least when he repeated the thing about Haitians eating your pets: surely no one but hard core racists can agree with that, right?