In a statement, Biden said that while Israel has taken responsibility for her death, the U.S. government expects continued access as the investigation continues over the circumstances of the shooting. “There must be full accountability. And Israel must do more to ensure that incidents like this never happen again,” Biden said.

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      Remember when he had those words about sanctioning high ranking members of Israel’s government if the genocide continued?

      Then he sanctioned some broke ass “settlers” for a week or two and pulled it back once everyone had clapped for him.

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          I think this quote from Harris in the debate sums up the American support for the genocide. You can’t except the former colonial genocidal regime to oppose the new one they propped up.

          And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself. We would.

          Edit: it seems most people think I ment this was a good thing? No, America isn’t inherently good.

          This statement shows how America supports the genocide because America would be willing to do similar slaughter if an attack happened to us (look at our post 9/11 actions for an example of the destruction we are willing to cause). It also shows how she not only recognizes but supports this view.

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              More precisely the Palestinians are illegally occupied and occupied people have a right to defend themselves against the occupation.

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              She literally clarified that she was going to provide weapons for defense from Iran and its puppets, that she will fight for a 2 state solution, and called for a cease fire. Like a sentence later.

              Jfc. Race to the bottom, though I don’t blame you when this guy is purposely taking things out of context.

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                Biden has been saying that for the duration of the war. And everyday there’s a new war crime and all he does is repeat the same practiced sentences with no actions to back them up. Harris has given 0 indication that she would be any different. There comes a point where their words are meaningless on this topic and we are long past it.

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                She literally clarified that she was going to provide weapons for defense from Iran and its puppets,

                Yeah, so who are “Iran and it’s puppets”?

                • THE VICE PRESIDENT: Okay. So, I just had a frank and constructive meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu. I told him that I will always ensure that Israel is able to defend itself, including from Iran and Iran-backed militias, such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

                July 25, after a meeting with Netanyahu

                https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/07/25/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-following-meeting-with-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-of-israel/

                Who is fighting to stop the Israeli genocide?..

                So she clarified that she’s not pro Genocide, she will just support Israels “right to defend” itself from those who actually oppose their genocide.

                The rest is empty words and doublespeak. She supports Israels war against Hamas and continued funding of their genocidal apartheid state while they genocide Palestinians.

                If she really wanted a ceasefire she would vow to end support if they didn’t cease fire, not keep giving them whatever they want and asking nicely that they stop

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                  My optimistic rose tinted guess here is that it’s very tough to speak out after what happened last Oct. Hamas was wrong and went too far in that, unjustifiably so.

                  It’s a bit ironic, from what I understood at the time Netanyahu was forced into a coalition and losing power. Then the Oct attack happened and suddenly a bunch of folks stepped out of Netanyahu’s way and gave him full control again.

                  Today there are many Israelites - including family members of hostages - who think things are going too far and that Netanyahu should stop.

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            The overwhelming majority of Democratic voters and the majority of all Americans support a permanent ceasefire and even conditional arms sales (a plurality for a full arms embargo). Biden and Harris are jeopardizing a significant amount of votes, especially in swing states, by not pivoting on Israel/Palestine. If Harris did pivot, she would get significant gains

            Polls:

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            I would agree with that statement if over 40,000 confirmed deaths of civilians in 8 months wasn’t what was happening.

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                43 months ago

                And what actions has she taken to make us believe she actually means to protect Palestinians? Don’t give me quotes, give me actions.

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                    Really?? The Vice President of the United States, second only to the President, has no control over policies being made in the United States? She doesn’t have a podium to address her citizens and her fellow politicians to speak her mind and influence public opinion? She doesn’t preside over the senate to cast tie-breaking votes so that she can help sway decisions? She doesn’t have the ability to make a campaign promise, as the Democratic candidate for President, to stop arming Israel while they slaughter innocents?

                    No, she has a lot of power to help influence decisions. She’s just scared to because of that sweet sweet AIPAC money.

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              Do you think America wouldn’t do the same though?

              Edit: I never said it was a good thing, just that she said the quiet part out loud.

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                Are you trying to justify America arming and funding a colonial state intent on wiping out the entire native population in addition to the routine execution and murder of international aid workers and journalists by saying “Well wouldn’t America do the same thing?”

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                  No. I’m saying that’s how they justify it.

                  Edit: it seems most people think I ment this was a good thing? No, America isn’t inherently good.

                  This statement shows how America supports the genocide because America would be willing to do similar slaughter if an attack happened to us (look at our post 9/11 actions for an example of the destruction we are willing to cause). It also shows how she not only recognizes but supports this view.

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        Not doubting you, but as I don’t recall this (probably because of the exhausting news cycle) citations would help.

        Anyways, I’m encouraged by the fact that other countries that are similarly allied like the UK are starting to say no. The US might not have been ready to be the first one or the only one from this group, but hopefully it will do the right thing when others like the UK set the right example…