Okay sure, I’ll try and remember the new term. The guy did still fuck up but he didnt get out in a homicidal rage and shoot someone in the face before even saying a word.
This is someone mishandling a gun who should know better because of their standing in the community, and I think a short prison term wouldnt be crazy for this.
You only point guns at things you want to destroy. This was completely avoidable. I knew guys kicked out of the army for negligent discharges that didn’t hit anything. Hitting someone in the face should be a lengthy prison term.
This [is what] I was taught handling firearms in the eighties. So imagine my surprise and distress seeing the police lines during the Ferguson unrest standing or walking with their guns pointed at the crowd. One unintended discharge by law enforcement could have been disaster.
We’ve gone batshit bizarro regarding guns in the US.
Thank you, thats the point I’m making. Not defending the councilman, pointing out how dangerous guns are in american culture and how easy they are to acquire.
I agree, shouldnt matter if he hit him or not. We don’t know he even intended to point the gun at the people in the car though, if he apparently pulls his gun out with his finger wrapped around the trigger, then who’s to say he has a great understanding of what the guns pointing at.
Its far too easy to get a gun in America, its far too easy to mishandle guns, even if you are an expert, which means we are going to continue having this awful stuff happen in huge numbers.
Every poster in this post who has mentioned how to safely use a weapon has broken one of those rules at least once. They just haven’t killed someone yet.
its far too easy to mishandle guns, even if you are an expert
Every poster in this post who has mentioned how to safely use a weapon has broken one of those rules at least once.
Incorrect. Some of us were professionally trained to handle weapons safely. I’ve never violated a gun handling rule after I learned them. I think you’re projecting a bit.
If you violate the rules of gun handling then you shouldn’t be able to own or handle one.
So learn how to speak? If you thought thats what I would get out of, “I haven’t broken any gun rules since I learned them”, then I don’t know what to tell you.
I see you’ve never taken a gun safety class. There are rules you’re supposed to follow to prevent exactly this kind of shit. Responsible gun owners are absolutely anal about following those rules. And they’re really simple rules. Here’s the version from gunpro.com:
Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
Never let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
because the limited reporting on this incident doesn’t back up your premise. What we do know: he intentionally blocked in another vehicle with his own, took his firearm out and aimed it at the kid’s head. Where it miraculously fired ALL ON IT’S OWN uh huh.
We know what he said as the gun fired and how he reacted, based on the victims friends testimony. Its still awful, its just different awful. Like instead of just wondering why some psycho would shoot someone on sight, we should talk about how dangerous mistakes with a gun are, and how capable anyone is of making a fatal mistake.
Shout out your four rules all you want, they don’t keep anyone safe in the way y’all think they do. They are a morality test so those with guns don’t have to feel guilty for putting their entire family in danger just to puff up their ego.
you’re mixing up your replies. I’m prior service and want fewer weapons of war in the hands of civilians. I’m sick of the bang bang ra ra crowd, get fucked if you think I’m on their side.
that said: you treat every weapon as if it’s loaded and never point it at anything you’re not ready to light up. that’s just common fucking sense.
Sorry I meant that more as a generalization, its in these comments a ton.
I agree with you except there is no such thing as common sense. Everyone has to learn every single thing they know, none of it was a given. I don’t like saying common sense gun handling because it implies its so obvious it doesnt need to be taught, and it also detracts from the real answer which is removing guns from the public.
Sure, you are perfect. Got it. You totally deserve guns. Hope you practice the unspoken 5th rule of locking them up correctly. More likely to be used on a family member than an intruder.
Oh yes they do, and its a contingency in any theater of war. New guns are required to be safer but old guns that are less safe still exist and are in use. I was raised shooting guns well older than I was…or am.
And they can misfire which often means clearing a cartridge that might still go off. Fun times.
They can definitely misfire, but humans are more likely to misfire
When the adrenaline is pumping, it’s real easy to squeeze slightly harder… That’s why your finger shouldn’t be on the trigger until you’re ready to shoot
You want to tell me your gun shot two rounds instead of one? I can believe that. You want to tell me a cold gun, with a round in the chamber for more than 5 seconds, suddenly decided to override the required mechanical safety because you waved it around?
Accidental discharges don’t exist. They are called negligent discharges because guns don’t fire accidentally.
Okay sure, I’ll try and remember the new term. The guy did still fuck up but he didnt get out in a homicidal rage and shoot someone in the face before even saying a word.
This is someone mishandling a gun who should know better because of their standing in the community, and I think a short prison term wouldnt be crazy for this.
You only point guns at things you want to destroy. This was completely avoidable. I knew guys kicked out of the army for negligent discharges that didn’t hit anything. Hitting someone in the face should be a lengthy prison term.
This [is what] I was taught handling firearms in the eighties. So imagine my surprise and distress seeing the police lines during the Ferguson unrest standing or walking with their guns pointed at the crowd. One unintended discharge by law enforcement could have been disaster.
We’ve gone batshit bizarro regarding guns in the US.
Thank you, thats the point I’m making. Not defending the councilman, pointing out how dangerous guns are in american culture and how easy they are to acquire.
I agree, shouldnt matter if he hit him or not. We don’t know he even intended to point the gun at the people in the car though, if he apparently pulls his gun out with his finger wrapped around the trigger, then who’s to say he has a great understanding of what the guns pointing at.
Its far too easy to get a gun in America, its far too easy to mishandle guns, even if you are an expert, which means we are going to continue having this awful stuff happen in huge numbers.
Every poster in this post who has mentioned how to safely use a weapon has broken one of those rules at least once. They just haven’t killed someone yet.
Incorrect. Some of us were professionally trained to handle weapons safely. I’ve never violated a gun handling rule after I learned them. I think you’re projecting a bit.
If you violate the rules of gun handling then you shouldn’t be able to own or handle one.
I’m worried you’re going to accidentally kill someone or shoot your femoral artery. No one is perfect.
You just made a caveat I didnt. You mishandled a gun before in your life, by your own admission. You were lucky you didnt hurt someone or yourself.
This thinking we can be perfectly in control 100% of the time is why we have this problem to begin with.
I was taught the rules before I handled a gun. But nice try.
So learn how to speak? If you thought thats what I would get out of, “I haven’t broken any gun rules since I learned them”, then I don’t know what to tell you.
I see you’ve never taken a gun safety class. There are rules you’re supposed to follow to prevent exactly this kind of shit. Responsible gun owners are absolutely anal about following those rules. And they’re really simple rules. Here’s the version from gunpro.com:
Cool. You’ve broken one of those before. Everyone has. Noones perfect, the best of us make mistakes.
They had to break at least two at the same time.
And I’ve never shot anyone.
oh you were there?
because the limited reporting on this incident doesn’t back up your premise. What we do know: he intentionally blocked in another vehicle with his own, took his firearm out and aimed it at the kid’s head. Where it miraculously fired ALL ON IT’S OWN uh huh.
We don’t know what was said.
We know what he said as the gun fired and how he reacted, based on the victims friends testimony. Its still awful, its just different awful. Like instead of just wondering why some psycho would shoot someone on sight, we should talk about how dangerous mistakes with a gun are, and how capable anyone is of making a fatal mistake.
Shout out your four rules all you want, they don’t keep anyone safe in the way y’all think they do. They are a morality test so those with guns don’t have to feel guilty for putting their entire family in danger just to puff up their ego.
you’re mixing up your replies. I’m prior service and want fewer weapons of war in the hands of civilians. I’m sick of the bang bang ra ra crowd, get fucked if you think I’m on their side.
that said: you treat every weapon as if it’s loaded and never point it at anything you’re not ready to light up. that’s just common fucking sense.
Sorry I meant that more as a generalization, its in these comments a ton.
I agree with you except there is no such thing as common sense. Everyone has to learn every single thing they know, none of it was a given. I don’t like saying common sense gun handling because it implies its so obvious it doesnt need to be taught, and it also detracts from the real answer which is removing guns from the public.
I normally point a gun at things I don’t intend to shoot as well… That makes total sense
Sure, you are perfect. Got it. You totally deserve guns. Hope you practice the unspoken 5th rule of locking them up correctly. More likely to be used on a family member than an intruder.
Must have some scary family members huh.
What?
…guns dont fire accidentally
Oh yes they do, and its a contingency in any theater of war. New guns are required to be safer but old guns that are less safe still exist and are in use. I was raised shooting guns well older than I was…or am.
And they can misfire which often means clearing a cartridge that might still go off. Fun times.
They can definitely misfire, but humans are more likely to misfire
When the adrenaline is pumping, it’s real easy to squeeze slightly harder… That’s why your finger shouldn’t be on the trigger until you’re ready to shoot
You want to tell me your gun shot two rounds instead of one? I can believe that. You want to tell me a cold gun, with a round in the chamber for more than 5 seconds, suddenly decided to override the required mechanical safety because you waved it around?