Court quashes subpoena for names of users who talked torrenting in 2011 thread.

Reddit beats film industry, won’t have to identify users who admitted torrenting::Court quashes subpoena for names of users who talked torrenting in 2011 thread.

  • YⓄ乙 English
    -13•11 months ago

    Reddit might have logs and your ISP might have other logs, and they may be able to work together with other organizations to deduce information, but that is not a given.

    Reddit might have logs ? Reddit has logs and they can see your public IP. With your public IP, they can contact your ISP and get all the details of people using their service in a household. Then its just matter of minutes and seconds to trace down who is the culprit. Just to add to this, your windows/apple machine also have logs.

    • @[email protected]English
      17•11 months ago

      Yes reddit might have logs, in fact it’s incredibly likely that they have detailed logs about their users. however, it isn’t an intrinsic aspect of a website to have logs.

      I am not claiming that they don’t have logs, I am simply refuting what you said, which is that everything on internet can be proven, which is an objectively false statement.

      A windows or apple computer are not prerequisites to use the internet and there are no logging requisites for computers at all.

      Again, logging is an active task, something being ‘on the internet’ does not mean that logging is happening implicitly.

      • const void*English
        0•11 months ago

        Dear diary,

        Today I forgot about how the internet functions, and have decided to ignore how a router + infinite cpu & storage works, without websites that are not documenting who their visitors aren’t, so they can’t sell advertising, nor sell to groups who aren’t affiliated with state governments.

        Sincerely, Not a computer scientist

        • @[email protected]English
          16•11 months ago

          It’s ok if you don’t understand. Since you are a computer scientist, it should be trivial for you to open up a socket connection between two computers and send some pgp encrypted bytes over the wire. It’s a pretty good way to see an example of what I mean. Though you probably learned about the osi model pretty early on in uni and are aware of how tcp/IP works.

    • @[email protected]English
      3•11 months ago

      IP hasn’t been an admissible form of identification for over a decade now.

      Now, suppose that someone hasn’t been piggybacking off of their neighbor’s wifi, and it leads to a household with multiple adults renting the place with internet included in the rent, how would you determine which specific person to take legal action against? Secondly, in order to actually file the suit without it being a waste of time, they would have to have independent data showing that this person did indeed do the action and aren’t just making it up, in which case getting the IPs from a third party would be completely moot.

      • YⓄ乙 English
        0•11 months ago

        Good question, once police knows the household they will check the background on all the occupants and neighbors. If still they can’t find anything and they dont feel like wasting time , they will get warrant and confiscate all laptops for forensics but most of the time they can tell just by checking the background who’s the culprit.

        I would suggest to watch the documentary about the guy who was behind the darkweb site - the silk road.

        That’s some impressive police work right there.