Update:
The comments from this post will not be removed as to preserve the discussion around the announcement. Any continued discussions outside of this thread that violate server rules will be removed. We feel that everyone that has an opinion, and wanted to vent, has been heard.
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Original post:
Yesterday, we received information about the planned federation by Hexbear. The announcement thread can be found here: https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770. After reviewing the thread and the comments, it became evident that allowing Hexbear to federate would violate our rules.
Our code of conduct and server rules can be found here.
The announcement included several concerning statements, as highlighted below:
- “Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.”
- “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.”
- “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.”
The rhetoric and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology.
In addition, several comments from a Hexbear admin, demonstrate that instance rules will not be respected.
Here are some examples:
“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades, that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on the wider fediverse.”
“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.”
- https://lemmy.world/comment/121850
- https://lemmy.world/comment/1487168
- https://lemmy.world/comment/1476084
- https://lemmy.world/comment/171595
- https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3648500
Overall community comments:
- https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526128
- https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526086
- https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3652828
To clarify, for those who have inquired about why Hexbear versus Lemmygrad, it should be noted that we are currently exploring the possibility of defederating from Lemmygrad as well based on similar comments Hexbear has made.
- https://lemmygrad.ml/post/158656
- https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/882559
- https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/540170
- https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/446529
Defederation should only be considered as a last resort. However, based on their comments and behavior, no positive outcomes can be expected.
We made the decision to preemptively defederate from Hexbear for these reasons. While we understand that not everyone may agree with our decision, we believe it is important to prioritize the best interests of our community.
You said yes but didn’t answer my question! You’ve read my books? Which is your favorite?
You haven’t written any, there’s a fellow by the name of Karl Marx that has a few, and he’d be an intellectually engaging enough fellow to converse with.
But you? You are but a pathetic wannabe facsimile with no purpose beyond a poor attempt at humerous, though disingenuous, engagement.
It sounds like you get the dumb joke that is my username. Congratulations! With that in mind, perhaps you’d like to take a third try at answering a simple and relevant question?
Have you read Karl Marx’s books? Which is your favorite?
Do you practice being this stupid or does it come naturally?
Is reading scary?
Must be for you since you keep avoiding it. Answer my question and I’ll answer yours, it’s a simple question, do you practice being this stupid or does it come naturally?
Tantrum noted, accepted, and appropriately celebrated.
No tantrum, it’s a simple question. Why can’t you answer it?
Grow the fuck up. Carl Marks isn’t an author. You’re not Karl Marx, he is very dead. They’re not your books, and no one came here to have that conversation. Go somewhere else. I heard hexbear is neat.
Excuse me, officer. I’d like you to arrest this person for JESTING in my thread.
Comedy is hard. I suggest trying another thing.
Sorry but I just learned that sarcasm and jokes are disingenuous so I think I’m gonna spend my time getting upset about things I’ve never tried to understand instead.
See above, re: comedy being hard.
This is not your thread. Get fucked.
It’s 100% my thread, lol. Nothing even remotely threatening, just tantrums and liberals telling on themselves. And all I have to do is ask nicely whether someone has read the basics to have their opinions. The answer is always no, because having opinions is clearly much more valuable than doing anything to earn them.
This works out great for me.
Do you really think people haven’t read Marx? Are you that pretentious? Like I said get fucked.
Yes, of course I think that. Even self-proclaimed Marxists have often barely read Marx, let alone liberals that speak entirely in vagaries.
At best, someone claiming to have “read Marx” has skimmed and misunderstood The Communist Manifesto. That is, incidentally, not a book, more like a slightly extended pamphlet.
I’m guessing you don’t talk to people, and haven’t read Marx beyond the above description.
I have an undergrad in sociology you troglodyte, and am more of an Emile Durkheim and Max Weber person.
Now go smell your own farts, Id never purposely converse with someone so painfully pretentious.
Do get fucked. Any response to this, I’ll just block you. Cheers.
Sounds like I was right lol