• capital
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    52 months ago

    In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone.

    My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.

    If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.

    • @[email protected]
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      212 months ago

      “Property is more valuable than human lives.”
      A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

      • capital
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        52 months ago

        “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

          • capital
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            42 months ago

            And without one, the stronger will always prevail over the weak. I can’t believe I need to spell this out.

            • Flying Squid
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              72 months ago

              Who is “the stronger” in a situation where you have a gun and someone else does not?

              • capital
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                42 months ago

                Me.

                And my wife, and daughter. People that, without the use of arms, will always be the weaker given it’s usually men who commit these crimes.

                You’re missing the point - this tool takes physical strength out of the equation for self defense purposes and you’re acting like it’s a bad thing.

                • Flying Squid
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                  102 months ago

                  Ah, so what you mean is that it’s okay for the strong to take advantage of the weak when you’re the strong one.

                  • capital
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                    52 months ago

                    Please define “take advantage of” in your comment. The entirety of my comments here have been in a self defense context. I don’t see how my owning and carrying a gun means I’m “taking advantage of” anyone.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    12 months ago

                    No he’s saying that weapons permit people to be equally strong.

                    Without weapons, big people get to control smaller people. With weapons, a person gets to modify their own susceptibility to being controlled.

                    I’m guessing you’re a rather large person if you don’t understand this.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 months ago

          You’re talking about things like it’s obvious they are just important as lives. Fucking disgusting

          • capital
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            You’re expecting me to value people who steal shit.

            And before this goes in a disingenuous direction, no, I don’t mean stealing bread from a damn grocery store.

        • Todd Bonzalez
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          52 months ago

          Uh, that’s your attitude Mr. “Carry a gun so you can kill whoever bothers you”.

          • capital
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            32 months ago

            Uh, no. There are quite a lot of laws governing when deadly force is allowed which vary by country and state. I’m quite sure none of them allow it when someone “bothers you”.

            • @[email protected]
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              42 months ago

              There’s also laws governing what constitutes theft. Your entire argument about needing a gun is dependent on people not following the law.

              • capital
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                22 months ago

                Yeah the people stealing shit are… different people and not me?

                What is your point?

                  • capital
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                    32 months ago

                    I mean, I don’t require your trust.

                    But consider the consequences if I misuse my gun. They’re quite a lot more serious than those caught stealing.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          Well he has a VA rating. Turning human bodies into rotting meat piles is his way of life.

          • capital
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            32 months ago

            There are a lot of disingenuous replies in this comment section but I’ll just go on explaining as if you actually don’t understand.

            The rating comment was meant to demonstrate that I am not at my peak physical condition and am more vulnerable than my outward appearance portrays.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              What I mean is you participated in the military, therefore more likely to have skewed values in favour of “extended” srlf defense. Because the whole military justifies its endless butchery on rights of self defense and their ceaseless expansion.

          • capital
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            32 months ago

            I truly hope the police reach you in time, every time.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              People should be confined to boxes full of packing foam. This reduces the variable and permits police to control the situation more easily.

      • capital
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        Fascism is when you don’t let people steal your stuff.

        The word has been devalued on Lemmy but this is a new low.