• AlexisFR
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    111 months ago

    The expense always looked like almost utopic to me.

    • Magnor
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      1611 months ago

      Truly ? What aspects of it ?

      I mean they do have universal basic income on earth but apart from that humanity is all kinds of fucked. And it doesn’t exactly get better as the story progresses.

      • AlexisFR
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        711 months ago

        The fact that the earth is even united and not completely screwed is already a great start. It was even recovering from climate change before Inaros.

        • Magnor
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          1011 months ago

          The earthers are not doing that bad in the beginning that is true. But the rest of the system have it rough.

        • teft
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          711 months ago

          The earth is united like the United States is united. The tribes just got bigger is all. Instead of NATO vs BRICS, the Expanse universe has Earthers vs Martians vs Belters. And people are suffering hard on earth as evidenced during Bobby’s trip to the ocean.

          • @[email protected]
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            411 months ago

            Bobby’s saw a very different earth in the books tho.

            People living in UBI weren’t really living a paradise but they weren’t homeless hobos like in the show.

            • teft
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              611 months ago

              Example B of earth being shittastic is the entirety of The Churn novella

              The story for The Churn is entirely Earth based and provides a description of what the average life in a crowded, metropolitan city is like in the world of the Expanse. The city of Baltimore has given way to a multitude of crime bosses, and organized black markets. There are multiple bosses who each keep a “family” of personal guards that operate the smuggling of goods, illegal memory implants, weapons smuggling, cybernetic implants, and other illegal goods and services. The story takes place over the course of about two days.

        • ThenThreeMore
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          511 months ago

          To be fair to Inaros he did end global warming and the overpopulation of earth.

      • @[email protected]
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        311 months ago

        Isn’t the UBI on earth literally so poor that people on it are stuck in lives of poverty unless they can get into some kind of training scheme?

        • Magnor
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          211 months ago

          Mostly they suffer from extreme boredom and mediocre lives. Nothing drastic but soul suckingly unfulfilling.

      • AlexisFR
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        211 months ago

        Not at all. It always looked like something in between for me. Humanity is still struggling but moving forward, and most people live under various kind of regimes but no big bad Empire.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 months ago

          As far as I know utopia and dystopia are like polar opposites. I have never heard the take before that the concept of utopia includes that it´s rotten on the inside and only looks perfect. Where did you get that idea from?

          A utopia (/juːˈtoʊpiə/ yoo-TOH-pee-ə) typically describes an imaginary community or society that possesses highly desirable or near-perfect qualities for its members.

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          The opposite of a utopia is a dystopia.

          source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia