They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, “one rape every six minutes,” “not all men but always a man,” and “giving in is not consenting.”

They chant: “Rapist we see you, victim we believe you.”

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over “rape culture” and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

    • @Anyolduser
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      462 months ago

      I’m a man who was sexually abused by a woman when I was a child. If I point out that the sign in the thumbnail is both untrue and is a dangerous oversimplification am I a rape apologist?

        • @Anyolduser
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          172 months ago

          I have encountered more lunatics on Lemmy than I have in any other place in my entire life. It’s fucking astounding.

    • @[email protected]
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      212 months ago

      I don’t think that happens here? One of the reasons I’ve stuck with lemmy is that it’s relatively nice.

      • AmidFuror
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        The commenter probably saw the “Always a man” part of the protest sign and is daring someone to deny it.

        It’s an unfortunate sign to feature in the main article picture because it distracts from the story. There’s no issue focusing on one part of an issue (victimization of women) and not all parts (sexual abuse and rape in general). But denying the larger problem exists is counterproductive.

        • snooggums
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          412 months ago

          Pointing out language that excludes a massive number of victims isn’t rape apology.

        • RickRussell_CA
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          Women can be victims of women too, though. Look at how many mothers have subjected their daughters to genital mutilation, for example.

          I think it’s pretty reasonable to say, “please don’t use exclusionary language that implies some victims are more valid than others”.

        • @[email protected]
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          282 months ago

          I’ll take the bait too because I’ve personally known a female abuser (never did anything to me but raped a 14 year old as a teacher) and it makes me furious that a so-called activist would not only disregard crime that doesn’t fit their narrative, but try to gaslight the rest of the world into doing it too.

        • @[email protected]
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          182 months ago

          It’s an unfortunate sign to feature in the main article picture because it distracts from the story.

          Unfortunate but not a mistake. Like anything else in media, their only goal is to sew controversy and drive clicks and “engagement”. I can’t imagine any other reason why this would be the main photo of the article. I hope and do not believe that this is the kinda sexist bullshit that represents the majority.

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            Ngl, as a male victim of two different women, yeah it kinda is the majority. Most people would rather categorize me with the abusers because of my genetalia than with the victims, even though I’ve never victimized anyone but have been myself twice, and when I have a problem with that I’m the problem because “it’s mostly men anyway” and “you must’ve enjoyed it because you’re a man” etc.

            In my area, the legal definition of rape requires penetration, women can’t even be charged with it, at most it’s considered “sexual assault.” Good luck trying to report it unless you’re a minor, if the cops even come, they may arrest you, and if they do arrest her she’s unlikely to be convicted of SA, and if she is it’s a slap on the wrist, again unless the male victim is -18.

            And every time you bring it up you’re the problem. Nobody fucking cares at all and in fact you’re a bad person for not accepting your role as “defacto rapist” for the crime of being born with a penis.

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        I’d say it (E: not just rape apology, but misogyny in general) only happens a tiny margin less than on the rest of the internet, which is to say it still happens a whole fucking lot, even if they are sometimes a little less blatant with it.

        E: in case the replies and the up/down vote ratios in this post alone isn’t evidence enough, the mod log sure shows what positions are defended in one of the biggest spaces on here.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 months ago

          Yes, the one protecting rape victims no matter the gender, and the one against people like you, who call people you don’t know abusers, just for having a penis. I hope you grow some empathy one day, and figure out what you did wrong here.

      • @RamblingPanda
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        62 months ago

        Because the braindead instances get blocked by most, and I love it ❤️

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      Bro they’ve been here the whole time, they’re just apologizing for woman perpetrators of male victims because it’s “only 4%” so who gives a shit about male victims, lump them in with the perpetrators.