I’ve seen around 3 occasions of that this week, altho I have never seen anything like it before.
if I remember correctly they were:
- smack talking a mod (FlyingSquid) for saying not to report the same comment twice, when they were different comments, and the report was spam
- someone comparing .world with .ml in politics (as in there was a comment saying "this post will be overrun with .ml people, and then a comment going “but you are from .world”) (Maybe Im part of the problem? I have been called out for being a fascist because I questioned the “puching nazis” theme)
- one more which I can’t remember.
Anyways, what is all that about? Are people really starting to hate on 50% of the lemmy population because of their instance?
.world is the one that “preemptively defederated HB and grad, as a last resort” due to such scary views as opposing NATO and the IMF.
There are sophisticated and nuanced critiques to be made of Western power projection, soft and hard. “Nuanced” and “sophisticated” are not words appropriate to the average hexbear or lemmygrad denizen’s take on geopolitics, and for those of us who live in the real world rather than living to argue over how many Maos can dance on the tip of the icepick that killed Trotsky, the loud and unrelenting naysaying of anything less extreme than “armed proletarian revolution now!” got to be incredibly tiresome, not to mention the constant cheerleading of brutally-repressive regimes that don’t have any values in common with actual socialists or communists just because they oppose the US and its allies.
This is my main issue with tankies. Yeah, late-stage capitalism sucks and exploits the layman to enrich the rich further—I take no issue with that. It’s the knob-slobbering of Putin, Xi Jinping, and Kim Jong Un that makes no sense. Modern-day Russia, China, and North Korea have about as much in common with communism as oat milk has with milk: nothing but the name.
Drag thinks oat milk is milk. Drag isn’t convinced that cow’s milk is real milk, though. Milk comes from a plant, drag isn’t sure something from an animal’s boob counts. Chemically it’s too different from milk to call it the same thing.
I think practicality is the only important thing here, if something looks and tastes like milk, and can be used as milk in 98% of cases, it’s fine to call it a type of milk.
Certainly if we’re gonna call peanut butter peanut butter just because it spreads like butter, despite having no other similarity, there’s no reason to split hairs over things that are interchangeable with milk.
Drag doesn’t think we should call cow breast milk real milk, because validating it makes people more likely to drink it, and that’s wrong. We should be telling them it’s weird. That should be the default position for society.
Yeah no, you’re not wrong, cow milk is just another type of milk, there is no one “real” milk, animal or plant based.
It might be less weird in other contexts, but the in the context of our current farming practices, the fact that it needs to be pasteurized due to the likely presence of dangerous pathogens and has bio-available hormones, is weird as fuck.
So, Drag thinks countries that act as though their neighbors are part of a greater whole ruled by them as the motherland, and have political structures where the governing body consists of a small cohort (and not the proletariat) are communist?
That’s imperialism, buddy.
Let me know when: 1) China stops trying to exert absolute control over Tibet, Taiwan, and Hong Kong; 2) North Korea accepts that their ownership ends where their globally-recognized territory ends; 3) Russia stops invading neighboring countries; and 4) All three of them abolish the ruling class and give the power to the people.
December edit: This is a regretful instance of me being needlessly antagonistic.
Drag has no idea what you’re talking about, does not support China, and would prefer lowercase pronouns, please.
If drag does not support China, drag is probably not a tankie. If drag calls drag communist and consider Russia and North Korea communist-led countries, drag is wrong, however. A charitable description of those countries would be “socialist” by Marx’s definition.
Russia is capitalist, mate. The Berlin Wall fell. Drag doesn’t know why you think drag might be a tankie. Drag’s an anarchist. And you replied to a comment about milk.
Then drag and I are in agreement :)
I saw drag clarification that drag comment was just about milk and not politics or economics. Myself and others had a different interpretation, which is where things were misunderstood.
It’s okay, Drag. Some people just need to learn to let go.
Go visit hexbear.net/PPB (nsfw) for a good reason why one might want to defederate from them.
Strawman arguments and other such logical fallacies as these are why I user blocked lemmy.ml. It’s too bad they still show up from Lemmy.ml accounts everywhere I look:-(.
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Fuck off tankie