Every time the Dems look left they lose. They go to the center because they lose control (they need all 3 houses to do anything), so they go to the center to find voters. They’ve had control of all 3 houses for, drumroll please, 4 of the last 24 years. Want them to stop going to the center? Them give them victories.
Note how Barqs did not specify which years those were, that’s because the answer would contradict their point. Half of those four years were Obama’s first, after he campaigned to the left on a message of hope and change but before his actual administration revealed him to be just another moderate.
I’ll take you at your word, which is trying, but even if true I prefaced my statement with original. This means you’re part of the plan, and you would have to be. Though you may not identify as accelerationist your existence is spurred on and enunicated by a foreign effort to defeat America by turning it on itself.
If you were genuinely invested in the election, you’d be desperately trying to find common ground in the hopes of convincing me to vote for your preferred candidate.
Instead, you’re being both dismissive and disrespectful without even putting in the effort to ensure that the insult hits home, exactly the sort of behavior one would expect from a low-effort troll.
Lucky for you, I’m autistic enough to enjoy feeding the trolls~.
The only way you can look at the world right now and say “we’re doing the same thing over and over” is if you choose to ignore unfathomable swaths of nuance in some reductionist attempt to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.
I don’t really disagree with this, and in fact it sounds optimistic to me, provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause. Which you may not be. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth.
Edit: On second thought, I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented. I can envision a future in which the Dem party is captured by further left factions as young people grow up and become more and more engaged with electoralism.
My opinion is that you’re incorrect inside wrong wrapped in no.
But I appreciate you’re hanging in there because I’m pretending you really care about stopping genocide. In the United States you could work for the BIA if you really cared about these things but I don’t know what the options are wherever you are.
I mean, that or all the angry young/middle age voters could, gasp show up to the primaries and move the party to the direction they’d like to see. Instead, the elderly voters, despite being a much smaller share of the population, outvote the heck out of them.
If folks like you paid attention to politics when it matters, not just when it was trendy, things would be a lot different.
Then again, reading what you’ve written, maybe it’s for the best y’all don’t.
It will take longer than that. Even if the Democrats win by a more-than-healthy margin, the Republicans will be doing everything they can to delay and obstruct the final count.
As opposed to what, doing the same thing every election in the hopes that it will somehow turn out differently this time?
Every time the Dems look left they lose. They go to the center because they lose control (they need all 3 houses to do anything), so they go to the center to find voters. They’ve had control of all 3 houses for, drumroll please, 4 of the last 24 years. Want them to stop going to the center? Them give them victories.
I wish more people could understand this. Or even made an effort to.
Note how Barqs did not specify which years those were, that’s because the answer would contradict their point. Half of those four years were Obama’s first, after he campaigned to the left on a message of hope and change but before his actual administration revealed him to be just another moderate.
Obama’s policy positions were quite moderate, people just liked his branding.
As opposed to trying to make things better and avoid more suffering for everyone.
Accelerationists have never lived through what they claim to want because if they did, and lived, they would no longer be accelerationists.
Accelerationists won’t have to live with the consequences because they don’t originate in the US.
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I’ll take you at your word, which is trying, but even if true I prefaced my statement with original. This means you’re part of the plan, and you would have to be. Though you may not identify as accelerationist your existence is spurred on and enunicated by a foreign effort to defeat America by turning it on itself.
Edit: My bad
Again, I’m not an accelerationist. I’m a “Stop doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”-ist.
And don’t tell me you’ll take me at my word and then immediately do the opposite. It makes me suspect that you are the thing you accuse me of being.
You call yourself what ever you like. I’ll refer to you as, useful idiot.
Edit: If I were a foreign actor I’m either very incompetent or am a genius for egging on you doubling down.
I see you have taken the mask off entirely.
If you were genuinely invested in the election, you’d be desperately trying to find common ground in the hopes of convincing me to vote for your preferred candidate.
Instead, you’re being both dismissive and disrespectful without even putting in the effort to ensure that the insult hits home, exactly the sort of behavior one would expect from a low-effort troll.
Lucky for you, I’m autistic enough to enjoy feeding the trolls~.
No mask? What mask? I straight up can’t argue against this shit anymore. You want to hump dust go, hump dust.
The only way you can look at the world right now and say “we’re doing the same thing over and over” is if you choose to ignore unfathomable swaths of nuance in some reductionist attempt to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.
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I don’t really disagree with this, and in fact it sounds optimistic to me, provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause. Which you may not be. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth.
Edit: On second thought, I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented. I can envision a future in which the Dem party is captured by further left factions as young people grow up and become more and more engaged with electoralism.
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Doing the same thing you’ve always done isn’t “trying to make things better”, it’s “trying to make things stay the same”.
If you want to avoid suffering, you have to be against genocide.
My opinion is that you’re incorrect inside wrong wrapped in no.
But I appreciate you’re hanging in there because I’m pretending you really care about stopping genocide. In the United States you could work for the BIA if you really cared about these things but I don’t know what the options are wherever you are.
The Bureau of Indian Affairs?
Check your privilege
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I for one do think that.
Then there’s no convincing you of anything.
Not much of anything you’ve been talking about, no.
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I mean, that or all the angry young/middle age voters could, gasp show up to the primaries and move the party to the direction they’d like to see. Instead, the elderly voters, despite being a much smaller share of the population, outvote the heck out of them.
If folks like you paid attention to politics when it matters, not just when it was trendy, things would be a lot different.
Then again, reading what you’ve written, maybe it’s for the best y’all don’t.
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I have to ask. Who do you think will win this election?
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Thanks. Hope you’re right. We’ll see in 11 days.
It will take longer than that. Even if the Democrats win by a more-than-healthy margin, the Republicans will be doing everything they can to delay and obstruct the final count.