That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.
How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.
I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.
Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.
Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.
This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.
Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?
Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…
Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?
The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.
Pumping gas isn’t hard to do. I drive through Jersey sometimes and although I’m always happy that their gas runs a bit cheaper, I’m always annoyed that I can’t just get out and do it and be on my way.
When I did the job in OR about 10 years ago, it wasn’t expected. More of a “oh hey here’s a dollar for washing my windshield while it pumped” or “$48.60? Here’s a 50, keep the change”, if anything.
When I was a kid, gas stations in Indiana had “self-serve” and “full-serve” (they pump it for you) options. I’m not sure why they stopped. Probably to save money by hiring less people.
I hate pumping my own gas. It’s dirty, it smells, the machine is always different in every company, so you have to get used to a new thing if you go to some place you don’t usually go to, and if the weather is bad, you have to stand out in the cold and wind. I’d absolutely pay a premium not to do that. Maybe not 100% of the time, but often.
Gas pumps are pretty standardized, I’ve traveled all over the country and not once have I looked at a gas pump and been like “how the fuck do I use this?”, that sounds like a personal problem.
A hess gas station I was at a few years ago put regular in the middle instead of on the left. Started pumping before I noticed. Also, as I totally believe you about driving all over the country, you should know that octane levels vary a bit in places like Wyoming.
Either you put the card in the slot or tap it on the reader. I’ve never seen any pump do it differently. And they all have prompts on the screen that walk you through it if you’re confused.
If you really can’t handle it, you can go in and ask for 10 gallons on pump 3 or whatever.
Pumps now also include ads as you pump your gas too. Now we’ll be able to stand in the rain listening to ads while we pay the same price to pump our own gas and then get our credit card skimmed because nobody is around to watch the pumps at night.
Don’t give in! I’ve been in NJ my whole life. I’m not ready for this
Why would you want that bullshit?
I’m not for or against this law. I just like not having to get out of my car when it’s freezing outside.
At the expense of someone else being outside for hours?
That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.
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How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.
I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.
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Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.
Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.
Umm…
So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.
This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.
Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?
Where I live, the business can choose. We have both options. People rarely choose the full serve since it’s more expensive.
That’s fine as well. If NJ allowed businesses to choose than I’d likely do full serve when I don’t feel like doing myself.
Why do I want to get out my car and do that bullshit. Let someone else do it
Because it’s faster and it’s really easy.
Sure it’s easy. And it’s fast either way. Let the other person do it. I’ll stay in my car
Is it faster? What studies did you do to conclude that?
Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…
Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?
Personal attack, enjoy your block, while you are waiting for all the pumps blocked by people not able to use the credit card reader.
Oh no some random dipshit blocked me, what will I do
Lol that shit never happens enough to matter. Get a grip.
@minorsecond @afraid_of_zombies
afraid of zombies seems to be afraid of everything.
The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.
Gotcha that is why I have never once in my entire life been stuck waiting on a line outside of my state.
That is impressive levels of lazy.
I guess you don’t pay anyone to do anything in your life
Not something that easy, no. Would you pay someone to tie your shoelaces too?
Pretty idiotic example. Can’t come up with something better?
No, it’s not, it fits perfectly with how simple the task is. The fact that you think it doesn’t fit just furthers my point.
I didn’t realize that I was talking to someone who’s every task is simple. Fuckn clown. Lol
Pumping gas isn’t hard to do. I drive through Jersey sometimes and although I’m always happy that their gas runs a bit cheaper, I’m always annoyed that I can’t just get out and do it and be on my way.
I’m curious, do you have to tip the gas attendant?
When I was in Oregon, I saw them being tipped.
No
When I did the job in OR about 10 years ago, it wasn’t expected. More of a “oh hey here’s a dollar for washing my windshield while it pumped” or “$48.60? Here’s a 50, keep the change”, if anything.
Lol hell no you don’t
They don’t really tip when I was in Jersey
I’d like the option for days where i’m in a rush, but definitely don’t want it to be the norm.
When I was a kid, gas stations in Indiana had “self-serve” and “full-serve” (they pump it for you) options. I’m not sure why they stopped. Probably to save money by hiring less people.
Or, hear me out, having someone else pump your gas for you in the modern age is fucking wild
But why? What makes it different than any other service job? I pumped gas in NJ for several years, and it was a decent job all things considered.
I hate pumping my own gas. It’s dirty, it smells, the machine is always different in every company, so you have to get used to a new thing if you go to some place you don’t usually go to, and if the weather is bad, you have to stand out in the cold and wind. I’d absolutely pay a premium not to do that. Maybe not 100% of the time, but often.
That doesn’t keep gas stations from offering it, does it? It’s just not mandated anymore
No, it doesn’t. But they don’t offer it, which was my point.
They don’t offer because no one wants it
Makes sense. That is why women clothing all has nice pockets.
There’s no demand for it, why offer something the majority of people do not want or care for?
Gas pumps are pretty standardized, I’ve traveled all over the country and not once have I looked at a gas pump and been like “how the fuck do I use this?”, that sounds like a personal problem.
A hess gas station I was at a few years ago put regular in the middle instead of on the left. Started pumping before I noticed. Also, as I totally believe you about driving all over the country, you should know that octane levels vary a bit in places like Wyoming.
It’s the payment part that’s confusing. Because each pump does it differently. It’s not the dispensing gas part.
Either you put the card in the slot or tap it on the reader. I’ve never seen any pump do it differently. And they all have prompts on the screen that walk you through it if you’re confused.
If you really can’t handle it, you can go in and ask for 10 gallons on pump 3 or whatever.
Yeah I’ve ne
Yeah, i’ve never been confused by that either.
Pumps now also include ads as you pump your gas too. Now we’ll be able to stand in the rain listening to ads while we pay the same price to pump our own gas and then get our credit card skimmed because nobody is around to watch the pumps at night.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bigger first world problem.
I never said it was a problem.
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Or some of us actually have empathy for others working a shitty job. Could just be hard some people to imagine.
That sounds fair, but be aware that full service stations are probably going to disappear there within ten years because of the change.
Maybe not completely. There was one near the really wealthy area in Fort Worth, Texas when I lived there.
There as in Fort Worth. I am not obscenely wealthy lol. This was near where the Bass family lives, if you’re familiar.