We have only 2 major parties and one has been a criminal enterprise for 56 years
Nixon Watergate
Reagan: sold drugs to buy guns for guys Congress said not to buy guns for because they were mass murderers
Bush Sr US: helped with above
Bush Jr faked evidence for a war which killed half a million people and cost 6 trillion dollars also illegally tortured
Trump do I even need to do this one?
At this point Trump wants to form militias to round up 25M people and drag them to concentration camps and turn the military loose on anyone who disagrees.
This includes 11M undocumented workers who almost all live law abiding lives and Americans who were born here from above who are by our constitution citizens regardless of the status of their parents.
He has publically called for violence, and end to our constitution, a new era where the dictator tells the government what the law is.
It is strange for any responsible party not to oppose essentially Hitler.
Voting third party in a first past the post system with only 2 dominant parties not only throws away your vote. If your preference is Third party Harris Trump you are actually helping Trump win when you vote third party instead of the person who actually has a chance.
If the one you oppose is classified as far right and you print facts about them or quotes in your newspaper, it’s still something different than endorsing a specific party or person, IMO…
We also had good and bad ads for some parties, but when it comes to only what the writers think, endorsing a specific party is just not happening like in the USA…
The comparison doesn’t work. In the US it is common practice that a newspaper gives a recommendation.
Also the US has a two party system. Compare this to Germany’s multi party system. If you are undecided between to options a recommendation might help. If you are undecided whether you should vote the Greens or SPD a newspaper recommending CDU doesn’t help you at all.
While it is not illegal for a newspaper to give a recommendation in Germany, it would be a scandal indeed. But the only reason for this would be that they didn’t do it before. People are just complaining about changes like in this case as well
Which drives the partisanisation of the media. Bozo is right about one thing: the trust in media is at an all time low in the US and trust is build through accurate and unbiased reporting. Endorsing politicians is biased as hell.
The newspapers repudiation of a fascist in dangerous times would hit that much harder had they not endorsed other politicians in less dangerous times.
So now it’s damned if they do, damned if they don’t… swallow that pill they must at some point. But it would have been an easier pill to swallow after the rule of fascism in the US had been averted.
Fwiw, this was always the “op Ed” section, editorial opinion.
I do believe that most reputable news sources historically distinguished facts they reported on from their editors opinion. It’s worth the same as any other well-informed persons opinion.
Of course that also led to Fox “News” and a radically misinformed public, so it certainly went to hell
On the one hand, I know that the newspaper had done this for decades and stopped now…
On the other hand: If a big German newspaper recommended voting a specific person, this would be a huge scandal…
We have only 2 major parties and one has been a criminal enterprise for 56 years
At this point Trump wants to form militias to round up 25M people and drag them to concentration camps and turn the military loose on anyone who disagrees.
This includes 11M undocumented workers who almost all live law abiding lives and Americans who were born here from above who are by our constitution citizens regardless of the status of their parents.
He has publically called for violence, and end to our constitution, a new era where the dictator tells the government what the law is.
It is strange for any responsible party not to oppose essentially Hitler.
Opposing soneone is not unusual in Germany. Supporting one person or party is what does not happen here.
I’m not a fan of the orange one… Just telling about the German view on this…
With 2 parties supporting the other is the only way that you oppose the one.
The only way that you effectively oppose the other
You can always vote third party if you want to pay lip service while helping the candidate you dislike
Voting third party in a first past the post system with only 2 dominant parties not only throws away your vote. If your preference is Third party Harris Trump you are actually helping Trump win when you vote third party instead of the person who actually has a chance.
Kind of a weird stance to find opposing someone fine but supporting someone bad. Not accusing anything, I just find that weird thinking.
If the one you oppose is classified as far right and you print facts about them or quotes in your newspaper, it’s still something different than endorsing a specific party or person, IMO…
We also had good and bad ads for some parties, but when it comes to only what the writers think, endorsing a specific party is just not happening like in the USA…
The comparison doesn’t work. In the US it is common practice that a newspaper gives a recommendation.
Also the US has a two party system. Compare this to Germany’s multi party system. If you are undecided between to options a recommendation might help. If you are undecided whether you should vote the Greens or SPD a newspaper recommending CDU doesn’t help you at all.
While it is not illegal for a newspaper to give a recommendation in Germany, it would be a scandal indeed. But the only reason for this would be that they didn’t do it before. People are just complaining about changes like in this case as well
Which drives the partisanisation of the media. Bozo is right about one thing: the trust in media is at an all time low in the US and trust is build through accurate and unbiased reporting. Endorsing politicians is biased as hell.
The newspapers repudiation of a fascist in dangerous times would hit that much harder had they not endorsed other politicians in less dangerous times.
So now it’s damned if they do, damned if they don’t… swallow that pill they must at some point. But it would have been an easier pill to swallow after the rule of fascism in the US had been averted.
It also would be easier to accept if they were not changing policy immediately before an election, especially one with such serious consequences
Exactly - I find the comments in this thread very confusing. A free and impartial press is one of the cornerstones of democracy.
I now understand a lot better why there is such a distrust in journalism in the US.
Because Americans aren’t smart enough to realize the difference between a news article and an opinion article?
Fwiw, this was always the “op Ed” section, editorial opinion.
I do believe that most reputable news sources historically distinguished facts they reported on from their editors opinion. It’s worth the same as any other well-informed persons opinion.
Of course that also led to Fox “News” and a radically misinformed public, so it certainly went to hell