The Harris campaign believes Trump-skeptical Republicans are the secret pro-Harris voters who will win them the election. Team Trump thinks it’s a mirage.
  • scarabineEnglish
    28·
    7 months ago

    “Unilaterally halt 70 years of treaties, force a foreign country to obey your will, seize unlawful control of our military, and do it all in a few weeks while campaigning, all as VP” is quite the tall order to all of anyone just in exchange for votes that, let’s be honest, you weren’t going to give anyway.

    If you’re going to threaten to stand aside and allow someone way worse to take over, and those are your criteria, then this is just online noise you’re making and not genuine at all.

    If you’re looking for something less, such as statements - she’s made them. They’re pretty clear about being about stopping the genocide. So even in that direction, if it isn’t enough, then again this is just online noise you’re making, and not genuine at all.

    You just don’t care.

    • Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
      13·
      7 months ago

      Haven’t heard her say anything about the genocide except “shut up about it, I’m talking”

      • scarabineEnglish
        12·
        7 months ago

        She’s repeatedly said that she wants a ceasefire, and even said she’s trying to help press for one right now. Literally one rally after the one you’re talking about she paused her talk during a protest and spoke about it to talk about driving for a ceasefire, before resuming the rally.

        There’s only so much that is going to happen during a campaign. I understand a degree of general mistrust for politicians overall, but it’s honestly out of her hands unless she gets elected.

        Meanwhile the other guy is definitely pro genocide. No room for doubt at all there.

          • scarabineEnglish
            16·
            7 months ago

            This is a junk comment. She’s the VP, so what you’re suggesting is that she just try and take control she doesn’t have right now. Either you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about or you’re just talking shit.

            • Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
              4·
              7 months ago

              She could say that she’ll demand Israel stop the genocide on day 1, and immediately stop sending them the means to carry it out… I bet her polling numbers would jump significantly among young people… There’s plenty of other things she could also say she’ll come out the gates swinging for, like single payer healthcare, paying for all education and cancelling student debt, tax the shit out of the rich, etc and say the Dems will primary any Dem who doesn’t get on board ASAP

              • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
                2·
                7 months ago

                You’re right, it would, by a significant amount

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                Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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                In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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                Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

                Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

      • reddwarf@feddit.nl
        9·
        7 months ago

        “shut up about it, I’m talking”

        Please cite or quote the outlet where this was recorded, I want to see proof that she said this, like literally.

        If you cannot do this well then…you are a liar. Why you would do this I have no idea (but I can speculate and see red hats in my crystal ball).

      • AbsentBird@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        She’s been pushing for a ceasefire since way before Biden supported it. I think her first calls for it came soon after the conflict started.