• halyk.the.red
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    619 hours ago
    1. The Palestinians are fucked either way. Either the party that enabled the genocide will stay in power, or a party will take over that everyone agrees will be worse.

    2. My stance on genocide will not change. There’s a good chance that the dems will use the genocide as a carrot to get voters to the polls, and then move the goalposts later. They’re leveraging genocide for political gain, I’m just against genocide.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 hours ago

      Then you should be trying to prevent the guy who wants all the genocides from getting elected. But you’re not. Which is why no one believes you’re here in good faith.

      • halyk.the.red
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        311 hours ago

        I don’t care what others believe, they’re voting to support genocide. The only control I have in this situation is to not actively support those commiting genocide. Everything else is out of my control.

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          39 hours ago

          Your options are “Genocide, but might be talked into dialing it back if politically viable” vs “More genocide, for genocide’s sake”

          All you achieve by not supporting the first is making the second more likely. If you think Bibi’s dictator-loving buddy is better for Gaza than the career politician doing career politician things during a close election, you are an enemy of Palestine.

          After the election when AIPAC loses their leverage, Harris could come around. Trump will double down. I’m voting against doubling down, are you?

          • halyk.the.red
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            39 hours ago

            Genocide is going to happen regardless, the only option I see as viable is to not throw my support behind the parties pushing for it. Harris could come around, sure, but I’m not going to bet on it and I refuse to support it.

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              38 hours ago

              You do realize that “Palestine’s fucked anyway, it’s more important to impotently virtue signal that I’m upset about it than to do something which might actually help them in any way” is absolutely sociopathic take that cements you as an enemy of Palestine, right?

              • halyk.the.red
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                38 hours ago

                This is about voting for genocidal candidates, and has nothing to do with private donations or contributions to the Palestinians. I can donate to the cause to help them with food, water, and medical supplies and not vote for genocide.

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                  28 hours ago

                  Uh huh, which won’t matter much if Harris loses and Trump gives Bibi the all clear to nuke Gaza. If you actually cared, you’d consider the material conditions of others and the actual consequences of your vote. But the rational and compassionate choice feels icky, so you’d rather polish your halo while Bibi finishes the job.

                  • halyk.the.red
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                    37 hours ago

                    He’s finishing the job anyway, both Harris and Trump will continue support to Israel.